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	Ok, thanks for the info.  I was hoping on info on this Culture, but that link was very interesting.  But this old book store I found has most of the HH books there, and I plan on getting them all soon.  Any they don't have, I'll check out that website.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM: Grege, go to www.baen.com . they've got a websubscription thing where you can get the Honer e-books for like $9-10 canadian, including tax. plus, the first two Honer books are up on their free library, where you can read both books, the whole of both books, for >free<.
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 I agree.  I loved Q's retort to Picard in chapter 5...
 
 
	That ranks right up there with (to Riker) "You're so stolid!  You were never this way before the beard!"Quote: 
	
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	So they sweep stars and planets out of the way?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Suicide Junkie: ST has those giant deflector dishes to sweep junk out of the way when travelling real fast.  Torpedoes can even be fired at FTL speeds, though energy weapons can't.
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	So they sweep stars and planets out of the way?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: 
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 ST has those giant deflector dishes to sweep junk out of the way when travelling real fast.  Torpedoes can even be fired at FTL speeds, though energy weapons can't.
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	Thanks.  I plan on going to that bookstore today during lunch.  I'll check to see if they have some of his books.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by dogscoff: Greg- The Culture author is Iain M Banks. Imho you won't read better scifi anywhere. Go out and grab yourself a copy of any of his Culture novels (he has published other books as Iain Banks- without the 'M') - you can read them in any order.
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	I have heard in a number of ST episodes in different series that ships traveling at warp speed don't actually interact with anything in "real space" and just pass right through them...Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by gregebowman: No, but they get rid of all those micro-asteroids and other small stuff that would harm any of our current spacecraft.  You still need to navigate around star and planets and other space objects, like black holes, but it seems to take quicker for a ST ship to plot a course than it would a SW ship, who has to wait for the computer to plot the hyperspace coordinates before a ship can go through.
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	That is what I have heard as well. Except for one minor detail; they cannot pass through the items in real space. They must still plot a course that would direct them around these objects. Just because they are in warp does not make them immune to running into things.Quote: 
	
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 There was one episode about some black ops phasing cloak thingy that allowed the ship to pass through regular matter...The ship ended up stuck halfway inside some asteroid after an accident, and the Romulans were upset about the treaty violations implied by the existence of the ship as I recall.
 
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