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 anyone who tries to grab my GIjoe magazines is gonna have to pry them from my cold, dead fingers. [cue dramatic music] 
even if i only have a few.     [ February 19, 2004, 05:58: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]
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				February 19th, 2004, 08:19 AM
			
			
			
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 There are very many very dumb people out there. Corporate news has decided they are the ones to sell their product to.
 We had a story recently that seemed to go on for 5-10 minutes which was: There's this local guy and you won't believe what his name is... it's George Bush! Wow! And now you really won't believe this part - we sure don't - he doesn't like the Presidents who have the same name! Let's watch him sand something in his woodshop, and interview him! Woah! He's a member of the Democratic party, not the Republican party, EVEN THOUGH his name is George ... Bush! Wow! Y'know, before George W. Bush's father became vice president, his name was just a name, but when that happened, things really changed. And the eventual astonishing climax of the story? What's your wife's name, George? "Barbara!" Whoa! We can't believe that guy is a Democrat. What a world we live in, huh?
 
 Meanwhile, actually interesting stories about governments losing control of their countries, natural disasters killing more people than the WTC collapse, etc., get only 5-15 seconds because they are about foreigners, and who really cares about them, huh?
 
 Back in the late 80's, a news show hit the air at about 11:00pm, catering to a more intelligent audience. In fact, their catch phrase was, "News... for smart people!"  Naturally, it was cancelled right away.
 
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				February 19th, 2004, 09:01 AM
			
			
			
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 well said AT!hell we have some nasty flooding going on in NZ, why dont they report that!
 
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				February 19th, 2004, 11:18 AM
			
			
			
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 I feel your pain, AT. 
On my way home from the cigar shop Last night I was listening to ABC News on the local all-news station.  The top-of-the-hour segments hit on the elections and Iraq, of course, but had two other items prominently mentioned...
 
1 - a man in France finally died of complications from swallowing over 15 pounds of coins and jewelry over a period of several years
 
2 - the court case surrounding some guys who got drunk and got into a fight in a reservation out west.  It appears one of them pissed in an empty can and gave the can to one of his drinking buddies as a joke.
 
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				February 19th, 2004, 01:11 PM
			
			
			
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 Here in Finland some "public moral guardians" got idea that japanese comic called Dragonball Z is encouraging people for pedophilia because there is child like figures with boobs and in sexual positions (propably they have seen some hentai pics and mixed them with Dragonball Z because of similar drawing style and because comic figures are quite alike in japanese comics). Naturally these bright heads concluded that it is damaging their children, encouraging adults for sexual crimes and decreasing general morale and stability of our society. They made such a noise of it in media that the comic was actually withdrawn from the shops.       
Where is the intelligence of this?? Luckily, this is stand-alone thing, but I fear there might be more in the future...      [ February 19, 2004, 11:12: Message edited by: Karibu ]
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				February 19th, 2004, 01:14 PM
			
			
			
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 AT, that's precicely why I don't watch the news. I'm the one people have to call to tell me something important is on the news. Or if I happen to be watching TV and there is a NEWS-BREAk that interrupts the program I'm watching.
 The only news that I glace at on a regular basis is my two local newspapers.
 
 As to why this kind of sensationalism is happening in the NEWS today? Simple the News feels that it has to compete with the 'Entertainment Industry' in order to get Ratings. The problem is that by 'creating' news and glorifying non-newsworthy events they are loosing their audience in the process.
 
 My prediction,.. (and a grim one at that) The next big man-made disaster will be caused by some idiot trying to get his 15 min of fame on the news. The really sad thing is the news will probably give him weeks if not months of infamy and try to make him/her out to be a victim of society. (In fact he will have become a victim of the 'NewsCast Ratings Frenzy'
 
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 Atrocities, I feel your pain.  Somebody get him a stool and a beer to go with it.  Only trouble is, at the end of that rant you started asking for government standards for the news...a genuinely bad idea.  There's enough spin already.
 True, I did hear a story the other night about a dead dog, and happened to think that it must have been a particularly slow news day.  I do get a bit upset as the media attempts to prematurely annoint one and then another political candidate the party's likely nominee, almost before the primaries can be held.  And sure, I will often turn the TV off in disgust.  But the one thing you will never hear me say is "there ought to be a law..." (or government standards for the news).
 
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