OT: What Has The World Come To

[tesco samoa]

David G I cannot believe you called me an A-hole.... "some other A-hole"

I am upset. Well just for that your going to have to go to a ball game this summer for sure.

[tesco samoa]

p.s. i am not upset...

On the Car end... you can also look at how the car has helped design urban sprawl and all the problems associated with that.

P.P.S. I do not like guns either. To me they have no use in our society in the cities.

[Atrocities]

Some people should not have children.

But now we have so many laws on the books that a good parent cannot discipline their child without loosing them and being charged with a crime. No wonder more and more kids are going up with an "I don't Give A S**t" attitude.

I honestly believe that the STATE has no right to interfere with a family unless there is clear-cut evidence of neglect, abuse, or abandonment. Right now they get involved at a drop of the hat and kids know this and use it to their advantage to get what they want.

I think Robin Williams said it best: "Why you little Ba!" "HIt me and I will right a book!"

We have to many laws that do nothing but protect us from doing the right thing when the right thing is the only thing that matters. The tried and true method of spanking has worked for centuries, but only in the Last 20 years has the establishment ruled that that methods of discipline to be illegal.

When I was growing up, if I did something bad, like paint obscenities on a wall or something similar, I would have gotten my arse spanked and spanked hard. Today the parent would go to jail for not supervising the child, the child would go into therapy and society would blame his behavior on violent video games and Rap music.

I can go on and on about this and even point the finger squarely at those responsible for this, however that would accomplish nothing so why bother. There are still some good people out there who do what they can to instill ethics and morals into their children and I pray that God has their backs because society sure as hell doesn't.

[ April 05, 2004, 04:17: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[PvK]

My opinion:

Here in the LAND OF LIBERTY, I think it is utter BS to have laws against:

Leaving your kids in the car.
Not wearing a seatbelt.
Not wearing a bike helmet.

Education is how you get people to behave prudently. Here in the LAND OF THE FREE, laws like these should not exist.

PvK

[Atrocities]

Oh but PvK these laws are in place to protect you from your freedoms.

In a society that has to have warning lables on electricle appliances warning people not to use them in the shower or bath should say it all.

A free society is a dumb one, so we need these laws to save us.

[ April 05, 2004, 12:57: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Yef]

Yes, I hate that law about the seat belt.

I understand a law when it protects others from me, but a law that supposely protects me from myself its a violation of my freedom. I have never used seatbelts, and I will not use them. Period.

[geoschmo]

Seat belts and helmets don't just save lives, they lessen injuries. People don't always die from their injuries. Sometimes they are seriously injured and incapacitated. The cost of their health care falls, at best, to everyone else in their health plan, and at worst to the all of us through government assistance.

But I would support people being allowed to sign a waiver that says they can drive without a belt/helmet if they agree not to accept the use of of community health care resources that would not have otherwise been used to care for them.

And I'm not talking about a DNR here. I mean even injuries that you would probably have recovered from. If you can't pay your bill out of pocket without my insurance premiums or taxes, I'd rather let natural selection take it's course and give my money to someone with enough sense to buckle up thank you.

No offense. Don't want to step on your freedoms after all.