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AT, you are just avoiding answering the question. Space is either finite or infinite. If it is finite, what is on the other side of it? What is on the other side of the border of empty nothingness? More nothingness? That would be more space... This would be part of a proof by contradiction that it is infinite in size...
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AT, you are just avoiding answering the question. Space is either finite or infinite. If it is finite, what is on the other side of it? What is on the other side of the border of empty nothingness? More nothingness? That would be more space... This would be part of a proof by contradiction that it is infinite in size...
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Its simply a question that we as humans can not imagine the answer to. We can not comprehend or imagine something that is unimaginable from our human viewpoint. We have no frame of reference.
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Re: OT: Contact
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AT, you are just avoiding answering the question. Space is either finite or infinite. If it is finite, what is on the other side of it? What is on the other side of the border of empty nothingness? More nothingness? That would be more space... This would be part of a proof by contradiction that it is infinite in size...
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This is an interesting mind exersize, but it's not any sort of proof. For one thing, space is not nothing. It's most definetly something. Saying that space is nothing is like saying that zero is not a number.
If the universe is finite, what's beyond it could be truely nothing, or it could be something else all together. But whether it's something, or nothing doesn't make it any more a part of the universe. Because the universe is not everything that is, it is merely everything that is part of the universe. So there is your proof that the universe is finite. 
If you represent all the matter in the universe as some numbers, then the space between the matter could be said to be zero. Then beyond the edge of the universe would be L.
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Do you really imagine that universe has some kind of border or wall if it's infinite? But 4-dimensional sphere (torus or anything) has no borders.
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And beyond that border would be the possibility of life.
No matter how you cut it, as long as you don't twist the universe up like a pretzel, there's an infinite amount of life out there. Including other races.
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
AT, you are just avoiding answering the question. Space is either finite or infinite. If it is finite, what is on the other side of it? What is on the other side of the border of empty nothingness? More nothingness? That would be more space... This would be part of a proof by contradiction that it is infinite in size...
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This is an interesting mind exersize, but it's not any sort of proof. For one thing, space is not nothing. It's most definetly something. Saying that space is nothing is like saying that zero is not a number.
If the universe is finite, what's beyond it could be truely nothing, or it could be something else all together. But whether it's something, or nothing doesn't make it any more a part of the universe. Because the universe is not everything that is, it is merely everything that is part of the universe. So there is your proof that the universe is finite.
If you represent all the matter in the universe as some numbers, then the space between the matter could be said to be zero. Then beyond the edge of the universe would be L.
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