Carribean mod

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I'd be willing to run through your standard system file and make second Versions of them with wind or vice-versa.

[Goatfoam]

That would be great, Narf. Cheers.

JLS- I'm a little confused about the sails. Would a ship require one of each type of sail? I suppose you could restrict each sail type to "one per vehicle", with the mainsail perhaps being the most important (most movement) and the others perhaps adding one movement (or combat movement) each. I was against this, originally, since it seemed to overcomplicate the matter, but the more I think about it the more I'm liking it.

The Salt Water Displacement factor can just be added into the vehiclesizes.txt - I'd imagine a negative "Movement Bonus" ability would work for the larger ships, though I'm not sure if it will work. I'll go test it.

[Goatfoam]

Yeah, that works.

[Goatfoam]

Also, I've been thinking a lot about crew components. Me? I love crew. I'd love to see more crew in SEIV period. Call me nuts, but watching a battlecruiser take out the life support on my Dreadnought is pretty annoying, but it doesn't really bother me. Having my oarsmen wiped out by grapeshot, my first mate taking a bullet in the face or (god forbid) watching my Ninja Pirates get decimated by scatter guns, well... it may just bring a tear to my eye.

And the beauty of this sort of time period is that crew are very vulnerable and very valuable - no master computers here. So, er, yeah, I just wanted to share that with you, and expect to see a lot of crew components.

One quick question regarding repair, though:

Okay, so you can set it so that certain components can only be repaired at a space yard. This would include most of the ship's structure, considering the difficulty they would have in repairing the ship's hull. But - could you have two different types of repair? I'm thinking "Ship's surgeon" for crew types, and "Jury Riggers" for simple ship components. Possible? Doesn't look like it, but maybe someone knows a way.

[Fyron]

No, not possible unfortunately.

[JLS]

Originally posted by Goatfoam:

JLS- I'm a little confused about the sails. Would a ship require one of each type of sail?

If you use a system that each sail gives a standard movement value you may apply that value to the most used sails and to add (se Bridge) for example to Mainsail all ships would have to have a mainsail. Perhaps (se4Life support) on the Jib and now you have the two required sails for all boats at that time a MUST INSTALL component. Other Components as for example (Captains Ability) etc could be the se4 Combat and ECM. The use of Organics to represent the Lifesupport can be added in many other ways to represent the ships crew complement.

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IFAIR.
A Man of War as I understand it - is a fighting Ship ranges from: Sloop, Frigate to the large double and Triple Deck (Ship of the Line)

The other sails I mentioned earlier apply to different Sail Configurations. for example:

A Sloop will have a Jib and Mainsail; However it could have a staysail flying along with the Jib if weather is calm, but a sloop will only have a few Topsails if any at all and never have a mizzen or spanker unless a make shift mizzen is used to stabilize the bow at anchorage or mooring.

A frigate could be is Ketch for example, and will have a third mast (mizzen mast) this will have all the sails mentioned and the Mizzen is key to a steady balance and less leeage at sea; However, even with a Frigate, the spars are such that Top Gallants are used only in chase.
(2 se4 Bridge) would require this Frigate to have two mainsals and this would indacate the Main Topgallants along with the one (LS) Jib

Ship of the lines - with healthy Spars can Fly all sails in less then a moderate breeze; However the maneuverability will always be lacking. Hence their name (Line them up and Fire as she bears)
Example: (2 Bridge and 2 LS) would require Both Mainsails and the Jib along with the Foresails.
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Basically, after you decide on the most applicable Sail (other then the Main and Jib) assign your movement value to this. And in the Hulls themselves add the Modifiers any Modifiers , add other size related movements, Engine numbers etc. A slower Combat speed perhaps with an increase to Combat Turns in the Setting file, to have a slower battle with manuver and develope.

Also, it was rare for Large Ship to catch a Sleek ship - in the day.

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I suggest you research Man of War and their key support ships. To include Tactics, Ship Of The Line Fleeting of the day, and the Typical Baording Tactics of graple along side and then rush the target. Long boats rarly was worthy to make good time - even in the average sea and the Snipers on target would have a turkey shoot with such tactics. Longboats where good to row the ship out or into a harbor and to land a (SMALL Expeditions). British and American - I believe with the French and Dutch as well. Marines of the day had Surf Boats that would accompany the unit when attached (and this was for a land assault).
Some Ship-Of-the-Lines a Barge (SAIL LESS and a Cannon could be mounted) or a Cutter for Fleet inter ship activities (Post, Surgeon, Captain etc) and that could used for their onboard Marine detachment, but in Ship to Ship Combat, the main duty was repel and snipe.

If you research Ship on-hand for the day (around 1800 Napoleonic’s), you may find that the British had about 150 Man of War and French close (but less) to those numbers. The Spanish believed Bigger is better and had far less. The Dutch numbers were about the same, but most was of the Frigate and Sloop class - if I recall.

[ July 07, 2004, 07:31: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
I'd be willing to run through your standard system file and make second Versions of them with wind or vice-versa.

Cool. you would add the back ground of water and the like?
How about Islands and sea lanes, would you redo the Planet and warp pics. I think this would be neat, if done.

Narf, how would you represent the wind, would this be the random movement mentioned earlier?
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Great, in that case, I will only have do the Resource Screen Menu Pics.

Have you decided on what 3 Resources you will have GF: is it Wood, Food and Gunpowder or Metal, Food and Wood? Or somewthing other?

[ July 07, 2004, 14:36: Message edited by: JLS ]