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[Pocus]

Originally posted by PhilD:
OK, but then, how do you instruct your archers to target these LI behind the screen?

if the LI have a missile weapons (javelin) then target archers should work. Otherwise, it will be the AI to decide if yes or no it is better to target them.

I mean, there is no "fire at second line" order. You can order to fire at archers, but what if the units you want to target are NOT archers?

you cant. Archers didnt fire on second line historically. This is why a screen of skirmisher was a very good protection. in dom2, you will perhaps fire on the second line, if the AI consider this is a better choice.

(One other thing that puzzles me in the orders system is, there is apparently no way to order a set of squads to "keep formation" - sometimes I'd like a group of Hoplites to just move forward as much as the crossbowmen behind them need to get in range, but I can't find a way to do this - so in the end the Hoplites charge forward, get tired, and start getting friendly fire from the crossbowmen... )

the best thing to do is to put the melee group on hold and attack, to wait for the enemy, and put the missile group in the far back, so that when the melee units move, they are still a bit behind them. You dont have too much precise options in fact. If you want to get too much of your army, and put the missile units too close, they will move past your front line and get squashed.

[ November 09, 2003, 12:23: Message edited by: Pocus ]

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Pocus:
a note on archer targetting : I see that all of you are speaking of screening your light troops with a rank of heavier shielded units.

You should take a second look to the tac AI, the archers jumped from 30 IQ to normal intelligence in dom2. No more you can fool them with 6 swamp guards ahead of 50 LI !

Not sure about the AI nations, but the independents can still be abused that way. I've done it with many times with 1 longdead pLastroning for 50+ LI. You just have to make sure every LI starts at least 1 square behind the decoy(s).

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
Not sure about the AI nations, but the independents can still be abused that way. I've done it with many times with 1 longdead pLastroning for 50+ LI. You just have to make sure every LI starts at least 1 square behind the decoy(s).

I was not under the impression that the AI could be fooled as easily, and many time he targetted my second line, I 'll double check.
I suppose you made your tests with Nagot the Shadow, aka the Prince of Death of Pythium

[ November 09, 2003, 18:13: Message edited by: Pocus ]

[HJ]

I'm having my most successful demo game yet with regular C'tis. The serpent dancer/poison slinger combo is really deadly, and I have a blue dragon pretender with water 9/death 4, which means that dancers can attack and move faster and have a great defense value, are a bit scary which adds to the effect of poison from slingers and their own hits, and lizard kings can cast two fanaticisms per turn, which helps to keep them from routing. Double fanaticism also works great for the regular armies, as they almost never rout this way, and I just discovered that you can recruit sacred serpents in every fort, not just the home province. It's a bLast to play!

[ November 09, 2003, 21:32: Message edited by: HJ ]

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Pocus:
I was not under the impression that the AI could be fooled as easily, and many time he targetted my second line, I 'll double check.

Strange. For me it worked 100% of the time.

I suppose you made your tests with Nagot the Shadow, aka the Prince of Death of Pythium

Nope, I tested with NGF the whatever, the PoD of C'tis. I didn't play anything but C'tis/Miasma in the Last 2 weeks. These berserker falchioners are just devastating.