magical summons anyone ?

Gandalf Parker · #1 November 8th, 2003, 09:27 PM

The "how to fix AI" discussions are interesting but they might be running counter to each other. One complaint is that the AI should build more hvy units instead of a swarm of cheap ones. Another says they should build more castles. Now there is a need for more summons (which means more sites which means more mages). The devs have said that they are willing to tweak the AI.

Do we have anyone in this group who happens to be a budget manager? Sounds like the AI needs one.

MStavros · #2 November 8th, 2003, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by MStavros:
This was discussed in the AI's thread. Summoned creatures are very rare. Another AI weakpoint.

They can't be that rare. I've had Caelum use call of the winds on me nearly every turn when the AI was only on normal difficulty. [/QB]

Sorry I meant that the AI won't use too much summoned creatures in his army.

PvK · #3 November 9th, 2003, 03:02 AM

The most I've seen was while attacking an AI home province. There were a couple of Spine Demons there, and early in the battle, they blood-summoned four giant black bat-wing demon things with venomous claws, which picked off my prophet.

PvK

Pocus · #4 November 9th, 2003, 09:59 AM

yes, I saw these blood summons to (fiend of darkness is the name you are seaching for

).

But not a single one magical summon from gems. So something is screwed there IMHO.

Nerfix · #5 November 9th, 2003, 10:04 AM

The AI doesn't search magic sites?

OTOH i have seen gems on commanders and i am not sure if Celestials are summonings from spells. If so, i have seen Tien Chi often summoning Celestial Warriors.

In my latest game, Serpent Cult Pythium summoned Horned Serpents.

I have also seen C'tis with Longdead units couple times.

[ November 09, 2003, 08:07: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Saber Cherry · #6 November 9th, 2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by HJ:
Again, maybe it's still too early in the game, and it remains to be seen how easy it's going to be to do just that when human player plays Mictlan, but they do remain close to their starting dominion value even after 40 turns when everybody else has their values multiplied manyfold. Maybe this is the way it's supposed to be, I don't know. It's just an observation.

I played one SP game with all races, and Mictlan died on about turn 5 from running out of dominion.

Sorry, that's a little off topic. I also have seen AI blood summons and undead, but no non-demon non-undead summoned units. In Dominions I there were a lot of gem summons in AI armies.

[ November 09, 2003, 08:08: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

Aristoteles · #7 November 9th, 2003, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by Pocus:
yes, I saw these blood summons to (fiend of darkness is the name you are seaching for ).

But not a single one magical summon from gems. So something is screwed there IMHO.

I agree, and this is already mentioned in the AI weaknesses list. IE. The AI won't use too much summoned units.
Barely it is using them, but it is quite rare.