Can I get some cheese with that...

Norfleet · #1 May 30th, 2004, 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by Pirateiam:
Actually I also do not care much for the typical RTS but there are a few with merit - Kohan, EU2, Hearts of Iron

HERETIC! BLASPHEMER! How could you forget to mention Total Annihilation?!?

Pirateiam · #2 May 30th, 2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Pirateiam:
Actually I also do not care much for the typical RTS but there are a few with merit - Kohan, EU2, Hearts of Iron

HERETIC! BLASPHEMER! How could you forget to mention Total Annihilation?!?

Yes if you know me I am definately a Heretic! I have never even tried Total Annihilation. Is it any good? What makes it different then the typical gather crap, build crap, rush attack mentality of the typical RTS?

Norfleet · #3 May 31st, 2004, 02:27 AM

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I have never even tried Total Annihilation. Is it any good? What makes it different then the typical gather crap, build crap, rush attack mentality of the typical RTS?

Because it has the best unit AI and anti-micromanagement in any RTS so far? For instance, planes can automatically patrol a patrol route, where they'll attack anyone that comes near, and after killing the target, return their patrol. You don't have to do a thing. Repair units can be set to wander your base, helping out with any construction tasks, and repairing any structures or units they happen across.

Finally, you have a D-Gun. You have to experience it for yourself. Get the game.

Cheezeninja · #4 May 31st, 2004, 02:41 AM

My favorite moments were when i launched a 15 missle strong nuclear missle salvo against the enemy, it was far from the most effective tactic im sure, but man was it fun watching those nukes fly towards the enemy base on radar. I believe the addition of the giant robot in the expansion (cant remember its name) somewhat unbalanced things. Stick a radar plane circling around their head and they could almost take out an entire base on their own. And i have NEVER seen a RTS do artillery as well as TA did it, before or since then.

Huzurdaddi · #5 May 31st, 2004, 03:01 AM

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Because it has the best unit AI and anti-micromanagement in any RTS so far?

The queueing is the greatest thing about TA. Infinite command queues ( of course not infinite but there is no practical limit ). This combined with the novel build charge method ( you are charged resources as you build not when you queue ) totally changes the game.

However I have found that all of this queueing actually INCREASES the amount one has to do at any one second during the game. It is truely amazing. A good game can take over an hour and you will hardly blink during the whole time.

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(cant remember its name) somewhat unbalanced things

The mighty Krogoth! However at a cost of 35k metal it was not really overpowered. There were far better things to do with 35k of metal ( 350 Samsons!).

The really unbalanced unit was the Samson and the Slasher ( arm and core Versions ).

If you still play you should check out UberHack. It's quite good.

Karacan · #6 May 31st, 2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Huzurdaddi:
The queueing is the greatest thing about TA. Infinite command queues ( of course not infinite but there is no practical limit ). This combined with the novel build charge method ( you are charged resources as you build not when you queue ) totally changes the game.

*cough* Like Warlords Battlecry introduced a long, long time ago... Hah. Novel indeed, young whippersnapper.

Huzurdaddi · #7 May 31st, 2004, 07:01 PM

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*cough* Like Warlords Battlecry introduced a long, long time ago... Hah. Novel indeed, young whippersnapper.

Ah ha! While indeed Warlords Battlecry is old it is no where near as ancient as TA! TA was released in 1997!

When it was released Warlords Battlecry was but a glimmer in the eye of a stary eyed developer!

Also can you queue any order? And does the cost of a building come up front or as it is built?