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June 23rd, 2004, 04:55 PM
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Re: Joys of Jotun
It is 8*# of Steps in Path.
So a Son of Niefel starts with 2, and you take them up to 9. The costs are:
2 - 3: 8
3 - 4: 16
4 - 5: 24
5 - 6: 32
6 - 7: 40
7 - 8: 48
8 - 9: 56
Total: 224 DPoints
For a Frost Father they have to go one more step up, since they start with 1 Water.
Add another 64 DPoints to the total to get him to Water 9.
This is why it is usually only feasible to get a single "9" Blessing and usually only with units that at the very least have 2 in the initial Path, and best case, 3.
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June 23rd, 2004, 05:09 PM
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Re: Joys of Jotun
okay so really the difference I was seeing was the 18 points to get to level 2. Hmm...it seem like 50 or more points but I'll take your guys' word for it. But it made a difference to me on the scales so I had to go with the dragon.
If by chance I test those numbers and get something different, I will post it here.
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June 23rd, 2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: Joys of Jotun
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Originally posted by En Forcer:
okay so really the difference I was seeing was the 18 points to get to level 2. Hmm...it seem like 50 or more points but I'll take your guys' word for it.
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It's a 64 point difference, since the frost father needs to increase his path one time more than the Son of Niefel. He pays the same cost to get to level 8 that the Son of Niefel pays to get to level 9. The frost father then has to pay another 8*8 = 64 points to get his eighth increase in water magic.
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June 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM
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Re: Joys of Jotun
OH!
I'm looking at it the wrong way. It's the # of times you go up that determines the cost. Hence, zen's comment about trying to start with level 3.
Okay, got it.
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June 23rd, 2004, 06:06 PM
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So I settled on the Blue Dragon like Arryn uses in his big game.
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I'm pretty sure Arryn used a Wyrm.
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June 23rd, 2004, 08:38 PM
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Re: Joys of Jotun
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quote: Originally posted by En Forcer:
So I settled on the Blue Dragon like Arryn uses in his big game.
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I'm pretty sure Arryn used a Wyrm. And it's her big game.
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June 23rd, 2004, 09:18 PM
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Re: Joys of Jotun
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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
quote: Originally posted by En Forcer:
Anybody know why the magic point cost ramps up more steeply for the humans? I would think it would be the opposite....
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Magic cost depends on the number of increases you've made, so the cost to go from 2-9 on a dragon is about the same as the cost to go from 0-7 on a human. Basically, it's as Graeme says. To be a little more specific:
To increase a path the nth time requires 8n points. The exception occurs when you start with 0 in a path. In that case, the first increase's cost (8) is replaced by the path cost listed for the Pretender (for humans, this is generally 10).
To increase the path from 1 to 2 after that costs 16, as that is the second increase. This is not very intuitive, so make sure you realize this.
Note that Dominion increases work the same way, except everyone starts with at least 1 Dominion, and the nth increase costs 7n points instead of 8n.
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