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Old July 15th, 2004, 04:38 PM
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Another question here:

Although I didnt vote for them (I restricted myself to 3), I really like Van Helheim, for many reasons. I like Van Default quite a lot, but find Helheim even sexier. Sure, the dwarves are less variable -- but they are dark and nasty necromancers! And now the my top-notch mage becomes less of a bloodhunter and more of a... big scary necromancer! And I can still recruit those groovy dark vans... Ja, I like em!

So my question is: Why do I appear to be alone here? It is because Helheim isnt as competetive as Default Van? (or is it because you cant get those cute little pigs anymore?) Are Svartalvs really so much less sexy than Dwarves? Your honest opinion is appreciated!

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Got 3 Favorites races.

The first one is C'tis - Miasma, Dominion strength 8, Combat Pretender: Green Dragon with 6 green magic. Heat:3, Luck:2, Magic:2. Dark citadel.

The secound is Man - No theme, Dominion strength 4, Magic Pretender: Druid on unicorn with 4 air magic, 4 nature magic, 2 water magic. Cold:1, Luck:2, Magic:2. Fortified City.

The third is Caelum - No theme. Dominion strength 4, Combat Pretender: Ice Dragon with 6 Astral magic and 6 water magic. Cold:3, luck:2, Magic:2.


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So my question is: Why do I appear to be alone here? It is because Helheim isnt as competetive as Default Van? (or is it because you cant get those cute little pigs anymore?) Are Svartalvs really so much less sexy than Dwarves? Your honest opinion is appreciated!
I ticked helheim. I think my four selections were Arco base, and all three Vanheim themes. Hangadrotts are second only to Tuatha in the recruitable SC class... and they forge their own wraith swords. in addition to Soul Vortex, they can sit back and drain/raise with the best of them. Lack of a cheap random pick is their only real drawback. You gotta drop 400 gold to get a random-one, so it's really up to your pretender to forge any jade armor or whatever. Their research abilities are dubious, so finding sages is really important. Helheim + indy mages is a beatdown. If you don't find them, life can be rough.
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Probably because the lack of consistency in the mages means that any mystic you hire will be a random crapshoot of magic paths, so you can't slap on a one-size-fits-all config. This turns Arco mage-management into a micromanagement hell that tends to push most people beyond their tolerance for pain.
As a commited arco player, I hate this.
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Got 3 Favorites races.

The third is Caelum - No theme. Dominion strength 4, Combat Pretender: Ice Dragon with 6 Astral magic and 6 water magic. Cold:3, luck:2, Magic:2.
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Just curious, why dom 4 here? Such a low dominion scares me in general, although I can imagine it working ok for pan or man -- but for caelum, who needs all that cold, isnt that a bit low? Why the ice dragon with so much water? Thems a lot of points in water for a nation that is bound to get water-3 very soon. (All those points could go to Order, or dominion, or a different magic path, or anything really.) Just curious as to your feelings!!
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Got 3 Favorites races.

The third is Caelum - No theme. Dominion strength 4, Combat Pretender: Ice Dragon with 6 Astral magic and 6 water magic. Cold:3, luck:2, Magic:2.
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Just curious, why dom 4 here? Such a low dominion scares me in general, although I can imagine it working ok for pan or man -- but for caelum, who needs all that cold, isnt that a bit low?
It works fine with me ...I know it looks a bit weird but with dom 4 I'm trying to keep out of distance with the AI and break the silence when I'm ready. I mainly play against the AI and only tried MP 2 times(not with this one). So I don't know how it works in MP. The cold havn't been a problem so far, but sure it still need some adjustments .


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Why the ice dragon with so much water? Thems a lot of points in water for a nation that is bound to get water-3 very soon. (All those points could go to Order, or dominion, or a different magic path, or anything really.) Just curious as to your feelings!!
Yea, but the only problem is that another path cost 80 which is much to start another path up and when the dragon is in dragon form it half it's magic paths. Sure I could choose another Pretender like 'Nataraja' (which would fit more nicely) but I have a thing when it comes to dragons . (perhaps illwinter should make an air dragon with lightning firing?). Also you'll get a quick start An Ice dragon with Quickness can do some several damage on the opponents. Or change tatics if needed like change back into human form and use it as mage to do damage over distances.(Some good water magic out there IMO)

Though I've tried with another ice dragon with air magic,water magic and astral magic to get the ultimate killer machine one which gets rarly hit.(Image mirror, quickness, luck, twisted fate etc.)


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Of the nations I like to play, Arcos is unquestionably the most fun but also the most time intensive (in the end game anyway).

Arcos's overall flexibility is sexy.
Hypasists, as one of the few good MI, can really move so they are a little sexy.
Priestesses will take care of you and are uniquely sexy.
Astrologers have a great mind, that's always sexy. Mystics are all flexible and are amazingly sexy. (High level of randoms on any mage is sexy)


And by Norfleet:
ARCO IS SHINY! How can you resist the potential to be able to play with every single magic toy in the game, through your widely varied magic paths that give you just about anything, if you hire enough of them and summon the right ones? With only a little pretender aid, Arco has access to any magic in the game: IT IS SHINY! OOH! SHINY!
And there's more!

Elephants are sexy! How can you not like big gray elephants going trumpety-trumpety squish squish squish?

Arco just has so many toys, it's fab. And the inner Powergamer in me doesn't rebel while I'm playing with the toys, because Arco is powerful and competitive in MP too.

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