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				 Re: upkeep 
 
	Boron's quote was referring to BOTH sea trolls and regular trolls posted July 14, 2004 19:32 where you quote Boron.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel: Something that YOU missed is we were talking about Sea Trolls (not regular Trolls) when you jumped in.
 |  As far as Sea Trolls I consider them worthwhile since they are able to enter the sea and the king generates water gems.  Regular trolls are not.
 
 
	4 upkeep per troll is nothing to sweep under a rug and ignore.  During a game I have acquired as many as 110 living statues...  if I spent those gems on trolls the upkeep would cost me the ability to build several temples and/or hire units.  Unless I am losing where they are killed quickly.  lolQuote: 
	
		| About the upkeep I agree there's some, but my opinion is, and always has been, that it's negligible. |  
 
 
	The gold upkeep is zero...  not true for trolls.  Thus a successful large army of trolls which stays alive 30 turns gets very very expensive.  Not true with Draconians or Living Statues.Quote: 
	
		| you'll get 45 Draconians for a 45 gems investment. 1 gem/Draconian may be cheap, but it's not zero. 
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		| [qb]Wrong... upkeep does not scale proportionally to ones own income.  Income and upkeep can vary depending on the nation being played and the players style of playing. |  
	Upkeep does not scale proportionally to ones own income for some players.  I've witnessed strategies where allied players(hotseat) would never exceed X amount of gold upkeep... basically flat line.  Any additional gold income would be spent on temples, province defense, forts and anything without upkeep... hope that clears it up.Quote: 
	
		| I can't understand where you're heading here. Obviously I meant 'other things being equal' here. Same player, conditions, etc. except for the map size - which BTW was your own point, not mine. |  
 [ July 15, 2004, 00:33: Message edited by: NTJedi ]
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