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August 18th, 2004, 03:03 PM
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Re: Map Suggestions?
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Thufir said:
Orania is perfectly acceptable, but it bugs me a little to play on a donut - are there any maps out there that have just horizontal wraparound?
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Just to be nitpicky: Orania is a ball(sphere), where a horziontal-only wraparound map yields a donut (torus)...
EDIT: I am wrong in what I have written above and I damn well knew it! Orania and other wrap-around maps can be projetced on a torus. Consider a straight horizontal line like earth equator (which in fact is circle): If you move it upwards, that line decreases in length until it reduces to a point at the north pole. This is not what we encounter on a torus and neither on orania. A great circle on orania does not change its length when shifting it upwards or downwards.
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August 18th, 2004, 03:32 PM
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Re: Map Suggestions?
Ringworld is nice, would definitely give new players lessons in strategic placement of castles/temples, trying to gain choke points, cutting off those pesky bolts in which nations can come in from far away.
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August 18th, 2004, 03:59 PM
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Re: Map Suggestions?
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FM_Surrigon said:
Ringworld is nice, would definitely give new players lessons in strategic placement of castles/temples, trying to gain choke points, cutting off those pesky bolts in which nations can come in from far away.
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That sounds interesting - has anyone played Ringworld in MP? I'd hate to be first to try it out in MP, this being a newbie game and all.
How many players will Ringworld accomodate?
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August 18th, 2004, 03:41 PM
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Re: Map Suggestions?
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Chazar said:
Just to be nitpicky: Orania is a ball(sphere), where a horziontal-only wraparound map yields a donut (torus)...
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Sorry, but you're wrong. A flat map that connects its West to its East and its North to its South is topologically equivalent to a torus, not a sphere.
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August 18th, 2004, 03:42 PM
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Corporal
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Re: Map Suggestions?
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Chazar said:
Quote:
Thufir said:
Orania is perfectly acceptable, but it bugs me a little to play on a donut - are there any maps out there that have just horizontal wraparound?
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Just to be nitpicky: Orania is a ball(sphere), where a horziontal-only wraparound map yields a donut (torus)...
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Just to be nitpicky: The original poster is correct. Horizontal-only wraparound gives a cylinder
I too would prefer more cylindrical maps. Those donuts are not very intuitive IMO.
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August 18th, 2004, 03:56 PM
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Re: Map Suggestions?
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Turms said:
Just to be nitpicky: The original poster is correct. Horizontal-only wraparound gives a cylinder 
I too would prefer more cylindrical maps. Those donuts are not very intuitive IMO.
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Well, one day, once I become an expert Dom2 player (and what does that usually take people - a year or two?  ) I may go into the map creation business. It'd be nice to make a few cylindrical maps complete with bigger provinces on top and bottom to approximate a sphere.
It'd also be nice to have more pretty maps that are also good for MP. The Faerun map is gorgeous, and I love playing SP on it, but so much of what makes it great for SP makes it bad for MP. Maybe Edi's new map resolves that conflict, but I suspect that's a difficult issue to work out. Karan is nice to look at, but the lack of any wraparound can work out to screw your starting position.
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August 18th, 2004, 09:44 PM
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Re: Map Suggestions?
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Thufir said:
It'd also be nice to have more pretty maps that are also good for MP.
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That french map on the Illwinter map page is very pretty! 
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