Poll: morale and routing

[Huzurdaddi]

The penalty for being surrounded by size 2 units is currently a minimum of 18 defense points by the end of each turn. That's not small.

And in practice it turns out to be totally insufficient. There is a reason why there is a mad dash for the powerful SC's and it is not becuase people like to use 4 or 5 of them in a battle to cover each other's backs.

I was playing a newbie game with Cohen where he was mopping up the floor with everyone by using an army which was backed by mages. It was really fun to watch those battles and it was far more interesting than watching SC's take on whole armies.

But to each their own. It's a matter of taste. If people prefer rushing to the special summons and equipping them and using them as their main attacking force who am I to judge.

[Gandalf Parker]

Huzurdaddi said:

And in practice it turns out to be totally insufficient. There is a reason why there is a mad dash for the powerful SC's and it is not becuase people like to use 4 or 5 of them in a battle to cover each other's backs.

As far as I can see the mad dash for SC's is done by the same people thinking the same way. Or some more experienced people who know they are playing with people who will try to fight fire with fire). The fix for SC's is often in the units that those people consider "worthless"

If a persons idea of a super combatant is based on damage it can do, and the only acceptable "fix" in their minds is something else based on damage, then you are looking at a spiral which is self defeating and game destroying.

[Graeme Dice]

Huzurdaddi said:
And in practice it turns out to be totally insufficient. There is a reason why there is a mad dash for the powerful SC's and it is not becuase people like to use 4 or 5 of them in a battle to cover each other's backs.

That's how I use them. I've had several battles where I only won against the opponent's national troops and mages because I had 5 ice devils, a heliophagi, and a moloch all present, along with 80 or so devils and 50 lava warriors. Put that up against 3 Tuatha, 40-50 Daoine Sidhe, two sea kings with robes of the sea and water bracelets, plus about 10 elementals. Without my normal troops, that battle would have been a walkover for Man, as SCs with heavy armour can't deal with large numbers of elementals.