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 Not to get into a debate with someone as knowledgeable as you, Fyron (not intended as sarcasm but as a compliment), I do feel comfortable in the "graphics arena" so I'll say, "Yes, GIMP is free but isn't in the same class as either PS or PSP.  Yes, it's free and THAT'S a GOOD point but it's just not in the same class."  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Not to get into a debate with someone as knowledgeable as you, Fyron (not intended as sarcasm but as a compliment), I do feel comfortable in the "graphics arena" so I'll say, "Yes, GIMP is free but isn't in the same class as either PS or PSP.  Yes, it's free and THAT'S a GOOD point but it's just not in the same class."  
			
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 Oh I agree... the point was just that it is an alternative to 650 dollars for the latest Photoshop.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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David I really need to learn how to use layers and such in Paint Shop pro.  It cost me enought to get the program, now I have to learn how to use it best.  
			
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 Good question, PSP is my secondary tool, I mainly use it for the plugins and for file conVersion. My main program as you know is ArtGem. IMHO aside from not having the ability to have plugins, it beats PS and PSP hands down for ease of use.
 
Q: Did you get the download Version of PSP or the boxed Version? The reason I ask, is to know weather you have the manual in pdf Version of hardcopy?
 
Oh, and there are a ton of tutorials out there for PSP. a quick google search will find you a couple thousand.
 
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Inspired by TerranC's work.  I wanted to make the weapon platform look like it belonged in the image.  I like the look of the this image and will most likely do my weapons platforms like this for any new ship sets I might make.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Hmm... I follow this conversation with great interest. 
I too are very new to rendering and the like. I would like to learn my way around with PS or PSP. I own PhotoShop 7.0, so I have to program, but not the expertise. Can someone help find me a nice toturial on how to make nice wics with this program? 
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		Nice weapons platform AT. Q: what's with the birthday cake beside your name above your avatar pic? Are you celebrating something? Is there going to be a party? Am I invited? 
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		I use purely PS 7.0 and I love it. It is very easy to use and to me it was not that hard to learn. I am still learning some secret tricks to the trade with this program but for the majority of uses I have no problems getting to where I need to go.   
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Could you help me teach some tricks with PhotoShop 7.0? 
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		Timstone, I would be glad to help you out. What are you wanting to try to do? I do not have my own tutorials but I have many that I have found on the net and I have used them to learn how to work in PS. 
Here are 7 sites with tons of tutorials on each one.
 www.pslover.com 
www.nk-graphics.com 
www.stealthdesignz.com
www.effectlab.com www.invano.com 
www.turorials.cn
www.devppl.com/tutorials.php
My recommendation is to look through those sites and read through and study some of those tutorials. Start with some of the basic ones and then move to more complicated ones. 
 
What you are wanting to do here is to see how they have used tools in PS to accomplish things. Then in turn you will be able to see how you can use the same tool to do something else.
 
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		Alrighty then! Thanks Ragnarok! 
 
I want to give my 3D models a nice look. I can make the models, but I can't render them as nice as AT to name a person. 
I have made the building and I gave it nice textures and all I have to do now is to add lights (and shadows) and a nice colour on the outside. 
I'm going to try and familiarise myself a little bit with 3DSMax to see if I can add lights and colours more easily than in SolidWorks. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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