OT: Trojans

Atrocities · #1 September 16th, 2004, 10:42 PM

MS = bad mojo. But unless you are a computer wiz, or can aford an apple, your screwed. Linux is a nightmare to get working, and one that I do NOT care to embark upon.

I am poor so an apple is out of the question.

Fyron · #2 September 16th, 2004, 11:45 PM

An Apple is just BSD with Mac crap piled on top... no real reason to go Apple/Macintosh these days...

There are builds of Linux that are designed for the corporate world, so they are fairly easy to get installed. Suse, Mandrake, Debian, etc.

Sivran · #3 September 17th, 2004, 12:38 AM

BECOME a geek.

Find yourself a community of linux Users willing to answer your questions. Install their preferred distro. Ask away. The n00b-friendly (ones that have graphical installs) distros of linux are quite easy to get up and running to the point where you have network access, and from there you can fire up a browser and point it to your forum and ask away.

Supposedly, the Gentoo community is known for being very helpful. Also, Gentoo is a LiveCD installation. Thus, during the installation process (which is long and involved) you can be using links (or lynx) to view the installation guide.

You can even start up an SSH server, and let someone in to configure it for you, though that would defeate the purpose: you learn quite a bit, doing a Gentoo install, as compared to zip, when doing a Red Hat/Suse install.

If you have multiple computers, and a network, it becomes even easier. Trouble? Use your other comp to find a solution.

Gandalf Parker · #4 September 17th, 2004, 10:47 AM

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Sivran said:
BECOME a geek.

If you have multiple computers, and a network, it becomes even easier. Trouble? Use your other comp to find a solution.

And my mostest favoritist thing. Be your own ISP. I will never never go back to relying on an ISP for my services with all of their rules and limitations.

-- Give the power back to the people! Vote Linux!

Alneyan · #5 September 17th, 2004, 10:57 AM

You should provide your services for all Shrapnel Gandalf. I even have a name for your ISP: Wise Wizened Wizard. What? It is Gandalf and not "Gandalph the Grey"? My mistake.

At least switching to more obscure programs might do the trick for you Atrocities (I am starting to fear that Mozilla is growing a bit too well-known, and so might become a bigger target; still, it should be a bit sturdier than IE). I would wonder about how effective an Amiga would be for a safe browsing... Does the Amiga have a mail program? I know there is a browser (Lynx if memory serves), but I am not so sure about mail. It might actually be an option if trojans cannot target this OS. Hmm.

Gandalf Parker · #6 September 17th, 2004, 11:12 AM

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Alneyan said:
You should provide your services for all Shrapnel Gandalf. I even have a name for your ISP: Wise Wizened Wizard.

www.www.net? cute. unfortunately it was one of the first domains grabbed.

Besides.... Been there, done that, know better.

My Last major gig was working as system admin for a large ISP. It convinced me to never want to do it as a business. But I do have a linux server at the house. Half a dozen domains, about 100 email addresses, ftp, dns, small news feed, game server, list server. No charges for anyone tho abit of bartering has been known to occur. Its nice to be able to offer sanctuary in a heartbeat to any poor downtrodden site I feel is worthy, or some 3rd-party programmer/modder/artist that needs a way to offer their works for download.

If I did offer services it would most likely be under techno-mage.com or maybe alt-hacker.org

Sivran · #7 September 18th, 2004, 11:03 PM

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I would wonder about how effective an Amiga would be for a safe browsing... Does the Amiga have a mail program?

The Amiga still has a sizeable cult following, and a community which is generally even MORE anti-Microsoft than Linux Users, Mac Users, and Windows Users combined.

The Amiga name has changed hands a few times. Gateway was actually making new machines based on Amiga hardware for a while, but I think someone else currently has the rights to the name. Google is your friend.

Aiken · #8 September 17th, 2004, 12:56 AM

GNU/linux or BSD is not the best choise for gfx artist. Even beos, which is dead for millenia, is much better.

Mephisto · #9 September 17th, 2004, 05:07 AM

AT, did you install any software recently? Some software contains Trojans or Spyware.

minipol · #10 September 17th, 2004, 07:29 AM

Sivran & Gandalf make good points: MS ties everything into everything so if program A has a problem, several others do too most of the time. The only proven way to design an os, is to have tools that do a specific task and nothing more than that task and also make sure that those specific tools are good at what they do. MS still hasn't understood thos.

Glad the IETF shot the spam id from MS. Until they learn to NOT integrate everything so tightly, they will keep on having huge security problems.