Newbiegame3 , evil error

[Thufir]

Huzurdaddi said:

True enough. I would be more worried about SC's though. While Mictlain may get some of them I doubt he will get all of them. A properly equipped ID can take on as many normal devils as you can throw at it. And the SC's cost less total resources to make a fearsome fighting machine than soul contracts do.

I'm surprised to see your concern about Ice Devils (I assume ID=Ice Devil, right?). When playing Abysia, I skip Ice Devils and go right to Arch Devils. Doesn't summoning Ice Devils require getting a Warlock whose random is 1W, forging a water bracelet, then empowering a Warlock on top of that? And, then when you're done with that they still don't have fire immunity, and have a cold aura that certainly isn't compatible with your army. I would've guessed that it's smarter to let Mictlan have the Ice Devils, and make sure that you beat Mictlan to the punch in summoning Arch Devils.

[Soapyfrog]

Well Ice Devils make very good SCs and so they generally operate alone.

They have better HP, slightly better stats, and better resistances than Arch Devils so they are a better SC chassis, whereas the Arch Devils (with their inherent flying) are better used to lead your devil armies.

[Huzurdaddi]

I would've guessed that it's smarter to let Mictlan have the Ice Devils, and make sure that you beat Mictlan to the punch in summoning Arch Devils.

I would prefer to have all of the 11 blood leaders thank you!

I would put the 3 water on my pretender and rush for blood 6 and get what I could with abysia. You should win the race since mictlain *needs* to go to construction 4 1st ( for SDR's while you do not ).

[Regen]

C'tis isn't a factor? Ouch, but sadly true starting position with only 2 borders and one of them was very ugly. Did take out Tein Chi's army 2x on a lark. So it seems that this game is now on a path similar to many games that Cohen is in. He is in the early lead, we can all cooperate to take him down a notch, at which point he will cry foul and go computer controlled.

Will await other responses to see if we can have some fun, or just go computer controlled soon and save the time.

[Soapyfrog]

Last game I was in (still running, newbies unite) with Cohen he fought for much of the game against terrific odds and did not give up in this manner, so perhaps there is no need to jump to conclusions.

[Huzurdaddi]

Last game I was in (still running, newbies unite) with Cohen he fought for much of the game against terrific odds and did not give up in this manner, so perhaps there is no need to jump to conclusions.

100% true. I OTOH quit when the alliance turned their foul eye towards me. Oh and I lost in a crazy battle.

[Cohen]

Well, if in a game you've against a uber-atlantis with a dozen of Doom Horror, Niefelheim with a lot of stuff, plus Vanheim plenty of tartarians, earth kings, and many other stuff plus the benefit of having had Forge of the Ancients op for dunno how many turns, to be ghost rided and such every turn, it isn't so funny.

In other games I fight til the end because I've fun. Like Newbye Unite. Or other games.

As I believe everyone plays for fun.
However in this game I'm not leading at all. See the graphs, Pythium has more forts, provinces, and income.
Caelum has far better research with Ryleh too.