A simple thank you

Truper · #1 October 2nd, 2004, 03:27 PM

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3. I have no desire to waste more of my time trying to educate you on this (or any other matter). I mentioned that in another thread a while back.

Maybe you'd waste less time if you stopped repeating yourself.

Arryn · #2 October 2nd, 2004, 03:37 PM

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Maybe you'd waste less time if you stopped repeating yourself.

Perhaps. I'd waste even less time if I ignored you. Consider yourself welcome to go back into the woodwork you crawled out of. Bye.

Graeme Dice · #3 October 2nd, 2004, 04:21 PM

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Perhaps. I'd waste even less time if I ignored you. Consider yourself welcome to go back into the woodwork you crawled out of. Bye.

What the hell is your problem this time Arryn?

Arryn · #4 October 2nd, 2004, 05:09 PM

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Graeme Dice said:
What the hell is your problem this time Arryn?

I'd ask you the same question, except I already know the answer. Please feel free to join Truper. The two of you are quite the matched pair, lurking like sharks in the depths always on the hunt for a tidbit (which would be me, in case this allegory eludes you) that they can chomp on. I only wait for the inevitable day when you'll choke on it, or some other shark will decide to feed on you and see how well you enjoy being on the receiving end.

Bye.

Boron · #5 October 2nd, 2004, 05:44 PM

One question on protection :
I have little knowlegde here but maybe somebody has :
I myself bought Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 . Blizzard checked their CD-keys when you played Online .
I know there existed a lot of SP-key generators for Diablo 2 as well but was there one for MP too ?
Or did this system work quite well so that if you intended to play Diablo 2 in MP you were forced to buy a CD ?
Cause this is the only protection that works i can think of but i have to little knowledge to know if it works at all or if there is nothing you can do against Piracy in various forms .

Arryn · #6 October 2nd, 2004, 05:50 PM

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Or did this system work quite well so that if you intended to play Diablo 2 in MP you were forced to buy a CD ?

The Bnet servers validate the keys for MP play, not the client-side software. So pirate keygens and codes are only useful for SP. But that's not all. D2 has a very effective CD copy-protection scheme as well. Blizzard went to great lengths to layer their anti-piracy defenses.

Boron · #7 October 2nd, 2004, 06:36 PM

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Arryn said:

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Boron said:
Or did this system work quite well so that if you intended to play Diablo 2 in MP you were forced to buy a CD ?

The Bnet servers validate the keys for MP play, not the client-side software. So pirate keygens and codes are only useful for SP. But that's not all. D2 has a very effective CD copy-protection scheme as well. Blizzard went to great lengths to layer their anti-piracy defenses.

So do you think it worked well then ?
I thought so i just ask because i remember that Blizzard thought that closed B-net is save in general but after some time the weirdest hacks occured and ruined the game when there were suddenly weapons which did 2000 or more damage etc. .

And could Illwinter/Shrapnel then do something similiar that at least the people who want to play MP have to buy Dominions 3 ? I think this would result in at least slightly higher sales too

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Gandalf Parker · #8 October 2nd, 2004, 08:12 PM

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Boron said:
One question on protection :

Cause this is the only protection that works i can think of but i have to little knowledge to know if it works at all or if there is nothing you can do against Piracy in various forms .

It will help if you keep in mind that there is "copy protection" against legal owners making casual copies for their buddies, and there is "crack protection" against pirates. Dominions does have a level of crack protection involved with the serial key which fights pirated copies. But they do not try to stop you from putting the game anywhere you want or making backup copies.

Boron · #9 October 2nd, 2004, 09:04 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:

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Boron said:
One question on protection :

Cause this is the only protection that works i can think of but i have to little knowledge to know if it works at all or if there is nothing you can do against Piracy in various forms .

It will help if you keep in mind that there is "copy protection" against legal owners making casual copies for their buddies, and there is "crack protection" against pirates. Dominions does have a level of crack protection involved with the serial key which fights pirated copies. But they do not try to stop you from putting the game anywhere you want or making backup copies.

Is the key somehow checked ?
Cause there are key generators for almost everything

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For Diablo 2 e.g. though thnx to the CD-key check each time you played in battle.net at least if you wanted to play MP you were almost forced to buy a copy afaik .

If anyway possible i would wish a small official server for Dominions 3 anyway and if Illwinter would then check the cd-keys would hopefully result in a bit more sales .

Graeme Dice · #10 October 2nd, 2004, 05:57 PM

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Arryn said:
I only wait for the inevitable day when you'll choke on it, or some other shark will decide to feed on you and see how well you enjoy being on the receiving end.

Please don't bother trying to scare me with such tales, I've been around Star Trek vs. Star Wars debates on usenet far too long for such tactics to bother me.