More spell questions...

[Boron]

PDF said:
Does he/she/it keeps his/her/its items ? I suppose no, they should get to the former master Lab if possible, isn't it ?

Kristoffer was imo kidding .
Iirc you can wish for uniques endless , so you could have e.g. 10 Belphegors etc. .

[Yvelina]

No, Kristoffer O was kidding. You can wish for an unique commander, but you will get a brand new Version. No items, experience, or HoF abilities will be copied. Furthermore, if an Air Queen dies, and you call her back, she appears with no experience, injuries, or abilities, even if she was in the HoF. You can then even mummify the original.

[deccan]

Yvelina said:
No, Kristoffer O was kidding. You can wish for an unique commander, but you will get a brand new Version. No items, experience, or HoF abilities will be copied.

I knew it was too good to be true. :sniff: :sniff:

Still, do wished for commanders need to be GoRed?

And what do you think I can wish for that can best deal with an air queen? I still think another air queen...

And I have another question: if I cast a global enchantment in a province with an enchantment bonus site, will the discounted cost properly count towards resisting a dispel?

[Huzurdaddi]

And what do you think I can wish for that can best deal with an air queen? I still think another air queen...

A couple of dudes with moonblades and very high attack ( ring of the warrior/burning pearl) should deal with the problem quite quickly.

[Yvelina]

> Still, do wished for commanders need to be GoRed?

If it is a wished commander, no. But if you wish for something that starts as a unit that needs to be led, like for example a Tarrasque, you have to GoR it.

> And what do you think I can wish for that can best deal with an air queen? I still think another air queen...

Well, it depends on how the Air Queen is equipped, and what equipment you have available. In the best of worlds, she is parading around naked, and you can send an Arch Devil equipped with Mage Bane, Blood thorn, Amon Hotep, Chainmail of displacement, boots of quickness, pendant of luck and a ring of lightning.

In less perfect world, you may be better off swarming her with Caelum scouts wielding elf slayers, or spamming her with false horrors while freezing her heart... i.e. you have to look at what she is vulnerable to, and see which of these vulnerabilities you can exploit.

If you want advice from the forum, you should tell us what she is wearing, and what race you are playing.

[Graeme Dice]

Yvelina said:
If it is a wished commander, no.

All wished for units start out as non-commanders and must be GoRed.

As for what you should wish for, you might want to not wish for anything, and instead alchemize your pearls to something else.

[Boron]

Graeme Dice said:
As for what you should wish for, you might want to not wish for anything, and instead alchemize your pearls to something else.

I personally have the feeling that it is all in all for many nations most economic to wish for gems .


The 175 gems you get per wish equal 325 pearls .
The costs for a "normal" wishcaster which starts with S3 are about 200-300 pearls depending what you can forge and what not .
But compared to not empowering a wishcaster + alchemizing the pearls instead normally wishing reaches break even point at the 2nd wish for gems already .


And wishing gives you the best flexibility . In a few turns a non-bloodnation can become a superior blood nation too by wishing a few pazuzus ( 2-3 ) and then blood .
The pazuzus summon a few vampire lords and then can summon monthly storm demons while the vampire lords can do horde from hell , forge soul contracts or summon forces of darkness .


Imo wishing is the most economic "strat" , the problem is only always time but you can often influence that a lot in your favour with good diplomacy .

[deccan]

I have even more spell questions...

1) What does "Wind of Death" do?
2) I suppose that "Rain of Stones" is a "do damage to everything on the battlefield once" spell rather than a "do damage to everything for the duration of the battle" spell?
3) If my caster is in a domed province and casts "Wind Ride" out from that province, will the targeted commander enter that province correctly?
4) Does anything protect against acid type spells, e.g. Acid Storm?

[Reverend Zombie]

deccan said:
I knew it was too good to be true. :sniff: :sniff:

*snip*

And what do you think I can wish for that can best deal with an air queen? I still think another air queen...

Or maybe you could just leave her alone, if she's not really bothering you...

[deccan]

Reverend Zombie said:
Or maybe you could just leave her alone, if she's not really bothering you...

Well, yours isn't the only AQ I'm having trouble with in an MP game.

But it still makes a good example, y'know like in a strictly academical, not that I would ever want to use it or consider breaking our NAP but let's just ask anyway just in case way...

I'm playing AE Ermor in that game with Reverend Zombie. The scenario I want to ask about a counter for involves an AQ (the one with glamor) equipped with a flambeau casting Wrathful Skies before attacking. In Reverend Zombie's case, the AQ did not have CR or FR at that time, but it wouldn't be wise to rely on it.

After thinking about it for a while, the best thing I could come up with was a swarm of mechanical men led by a few SR firbolgs armed with Standards of the Damned. This should work but the setup has low mobility and it would be hard to catch the AQ specifically.

Moonblades (Huz's suggestion) probably won't work too well IMHO, because you need to count on the AQ's mirror image protecting her from a few hits (in which time she will most certainly hit you). But IIRC, wraith swords do fatigue damage even if it hits a mirror image, so that would be my choice, but using what anti-SC chassis?

Any sort of undead / demonic chassis would die quickly to the flambeau, so what else? Firbolgs are too fragile, which is why I'm thinking of another AQ...