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July 24th, 2001, 02:32 AM
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Re: TDM Intel Question
...well, I've continued on with my game and the intelligence attacks are now unbearable. I just lost a Starbase to 'mutiny' along with another key battle cruiser + several of my attacking fleets have disbanded due to order chenges etc.
I hope this is on the 'patch' list - as the game is unplayable ( or should I say unenjoyable )
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July 24th, 2001, 03:14 AM
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Re: TDM Intel Question
quote: Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Any ideas how to test this?
yeah. setup a game with two empires. get it so that one empire has 10x the points of the weaker empire, and set it up with several CI3 projects running in parallel. then have the smaller empire hit it with 4 intel projects on the same turn. if the second 3 get through, you will know that the behavior you saw previously was just a quirk.
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July 24th, 2001, 08:26 AM
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Re: TDM Intel Question
Well, all I know is my empire generates 3x the intel points of all AI players combined and they all go to multiple CI IIIs. Yet I'm still getting my planets sabotaged, my population poisoned, my ships' orders changed and crews rotated (from ships with MCs??!?). Luckily I'm playing this game with all techs available from the beginning, otherwise I would have given SEIV up for good.
[This message has been edited by CW (edited 24 July 2001).]
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July 24th, 2001, 10:43 AM
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Re: TDM Intel Question
May I suggest to all of you that you turn off the Applied Intelligence Tech in your new games? (those games already started are stuck with it) I have, at least until the CI bug is fixed. But then again, my race isn't very good at spying, anyway...
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July 25th, 2001, 01:01 AM
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Re: TDM Intel Question
With a little extra modding, you can set the production of all intel centers to zero points, thus fixing the problem for games-in-progress.
As long as you don't delete or move any facilities, your savegame will work perfectly, but all races' intel will quickly fall to zilch.
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July 24th, 2001, 10:13 PM
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Re: TDM Intel Question
Or, with a little extra modding, you can change the way intelligence projects are setup. Make new, seperate tech areas for Espionage and Sabotage projects, leave Counter-Intelligence and Intelligence centers in the original tech area. If you don't mod the AIs to research the other fields, they'll only be able to defend against intel from others. When the bug is fixed, you can add the research for the races that you think ought to use intel offensively.
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