Recruitable Unit Rebalance Version 7.51 Released.

[quantum_mechani]

Ironhawk said:
Also, I wanted to reiterate:

Light Cavalry should have thier bows swapped out for javelins. Messing with precision, cost, etc, won't help when mounted bowmen (without appropriate tactical commands) are inferior in every way to un-mounted bowmen.

The standard indie LC already have a javelin variant, I don't know what the point of throwing out the shortbow ones would be.

[Ironhawk]

Do they? I'd never seen those hmm.

Well the idea behind throwing out the shortbow one is that there is no use for them. No matter how you tweak thier precision, cost, etc, etc. Are you telling me you are going to buy them as is? Even with SCs mod? What would you use them for?

My point was just that, in reality, mounted archers are(were) an incredible thing. They could move into range fast, shoot the enemy and then move away just as fast. Constantly killing the enemy while staying out of range themselves. But dom2 provides no tactical options for this. "Fire and Flee" would be optimal for these purposes if it didnt break up your units into a handful of provs like a rout. You could buy 20 LC and just sit them in the path of an attacking army and they would shoot at them and flee every game turn...

But we all know that Fire and Flee doesnt work. So then I am looking at the LC and seeing no place for it, no reason to recruit. And I thought to myself that giving them all javs would be - at the very least - more effective than having a unit which is no better than a traditional bowman, but costs more and consumes more supplies.

[quantum_mechani]

Ironhawk said:
Do they? I'd never seen those hmm.

Well the idea behind throwing out the shortbow one is that there is no use for them. No matter how you tweak thier precision, cost, etc, etc. Are you telling me you are going to buy them as is? Even with SCs mod? What would you use them for?

My point was just that, in reality, mounted archers are(were) an incredible thing. They could move into range fast, shoot the enemy and then move away just as fast. Constantly killing the enemy while staying out of range themselves. But dom2 provides no tactical options for this. "Fire and Flee" would be optimal for these purposes if it didnt break up your units into a handful of provs like a rout. You could buy 20 LC and just sit them in the path of an attacking army and they would shoot at them and flee every game turn...

But we all know that Fire and Flee doesnt work. So then I am looking at the LC and seeing no place for it, no reason to recruit. And I thought to myself that giving them all javs would be - at the very least - more effective than having a unit which is no better than a traditional bowman, but costs more and consumes more supplies.

To be honest, I don't think I would buy either javelin or shortbow LC, even in this mod. However, the javelin ones are just as common as the shortbow ones, so there is no need to replace them.