OT: Warcraft 3???

Renegade 13 · #1 March 31st, 2005, 02:18 AM

I take it it's not very popular...then again, I guess I'll find out in a week or two.

Any other opinions?? (Not that I don't trust you two, but the more opinions, the better

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RudyHuxtable · #2 March 31st, 2005, 02:55 AM

I enjoyed it, but then it was a gift. I don't know if I'd pay for it.

Atrocities · #3 March 31st, 2005, 03:11 AM

I did not like the game myself.

Renegade 13 · #4 March 31st, 2005, 10:15 PM

I believe they're currently working on Starcraft 2.

CovertJaguar · #5 March 31st, 2005, 10:51 PM

Doesn't compare to Total Annihilation, nothing Blizzard ever made has, but its OK. As for Starcraft 2, all I've heard about is Starcraft: Ghost, or something like that, and it is a FPS.

mac5732 · #6 March 31st, 2005, 11:40 PM

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Saber Cherry · #7 April 1st, 2005, 12:53 AM

I think WCIII is the worst game Blizzard ever released, though it has the best graphics. The way each side seems to have roughly 1 effective unit, no effective defenses, no tactics (that I could see) other than herding a single big blob of units, crazily low unit caps, and... this is a run-on, so I'll put a peroid here.
The way it rubs your face in its "Lowest Common Denominator" design with a 3-tier upkeep system (none, some, and lots, IIRC) reminds me of the stupid US "Terror Alert Level" with random colors in non-rainbow ordering. The resource/upkeep system has NOTHING connecting it to the way upkeep, even simplified abstracted RTS game upkeep, should work. Guess what - if you stop mining, you don't need to pay upkeep! Huh???

Here's a good question. If I pay as much for static defenses as my opponent pays for mobile offenses - and I'm talking melee offensive units, made for cutting flesh, not sieging - who should win when the offenses attack the defenses? In real life, imagine 100 soldiers charging across a minefield to attack 50 soldiers on higher ground in heavy machine gun nests protected by thick concrete walls... it's no contest. In WC3, it's also no contest, but in favor of the attacker, reducing the game to "Mass troops as fast as possible and charge."

My opinion is that Total Annihilation is the best RTS ever, followed by Warlords Battlecry II, Kohan, and finally Starcraft. But you can't see the vast gaps when they're listed like that, so let me show you graphically:

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Of course, everyone has their own opinion. I've met people who like Xenosaga more than Xenogears because the former has "better graphics" ...

CovertJaguar · #8 April 1st, 2005, 03:09 AM

Woohoo, another TA fan.

spoon · #9 March 31st, 2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
I take it it's not very popular...then again, I guess I'll find out in a week or two.

I liked it. Most people I know liked it (though nobody thought it was better that Starcraft). Better balanced than WC2, with more options. And it sold like a gajillion copies, so I'd say it was pretty popular.

Starcraft 2 is in development, but who knows when that will come out...

Starhawk · #10 March 31st, 2005, 01:52 PM

Better balanced my butt LOL as I stated earlier the AI always was able to swarm over you even while your soldiers and heroes were still building the AI had somehow cranked out heroes and soldiers and gotten them up to like level 4 before they even reached your base heh and you call that balanced?

And how can you say more options?
WC 2 had
Aircraft
Ships
Land units
Island hopping campaigns

Magics
Ranged units
Melee units

WC3 had:
Land units
Ranged
Melee
1 air unit per side that was easily killed for the price
Magicka
Lame attempts at Character development.