Interested in a Homeworld Mod?

narf poit chez BOOM · #1 April 13th, 2005, 08:42 PM

Have you tried the Relic Developers Network? I'm wandering around in there now.

Looks a little sparse, but some interesting stuff.

This might be helpfull: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=25632

zircher · #2 April 14th, 2005, 02:06 AM

Good links, I did get WinBig to compile so I'm playing with that. When I get HW2, I'll definately need those other tools.
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narf poit chez BOOM · #3 April 14th, 2005, 02:11 AM

Could you post it someplace, please?

Multi-gun corvets(sp?) with ion-cannons sounds fun right now...

zircher · #4 April 14th, 2005, 02:34 AM

Of course! I just needed to test it first.

http://www.fire-on-the-suns.com/WinBig.zip

I grabbed the first ship that I saw and converted it to .X so I could do quick view in my DarkBasic Pro model viewer.

Assuming the link works... one advanced support frigate. :-)

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zircher · #5 April 14th, 2005, 02:44 AM

Yeah, I'm rather pleased with myself. Not only can people export the models from HW and render them into ship sets. You can in theory export those models and textures to SE V when it is released. [insert real big grin]

I doubt that I'll have the time to actually build the shipsets for SE IV. I'm more of a tools guy this time around. But, I hope this will convince some folks that a HW mod is very easy to achieve. The most creative part will be where it comes to units that are not part of the original game such as ground troops. It will be interesting to see what Akula and others can achieve there.

Of course, if anyone needs to pick my brain on this, go for it. I'll try to do my best to help given the time I have available.
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narf poit chez BOOM · #6 April 14th, 2005, 03:43 AM

Thanks.

Akula · #7 April 14th, 2005, 06:11 AM

What about copyright? I don't think they'll allow us to use their images in another game.

Strategia_In_Ultima · #8 April 26th, 2005, 05:27 AM

Yes, when I first read Sajuuk was a ship it really made me laugh..... Oh dear, those poor Hiigarans, worshipping a derelict ship for millennia.....

But, back to business. Two more ideas for HWM:

-Warp points.
Could be represented by "Hyperspace Gate Complexes". Perhaps when you've received HW2, Rudy, we could start a multiplayer match simply to make some nice screenies without worrying about the possibility of a sudden attack that would ruin your photo session. And, when that is done of course, we can..... well, test our skills against each other..... You, who knows the Hiigarans from HW1 and Cataclysm, and probably uses good tactics, versus me, specialized in HW2 combat, a firm believer in the "tank rush" tactic.....

-Storms.
The Progenitor wreckage in mission 7 emits harmful radiation clouds which damage ships and can be utterly lethal to non-capital ships. Even Frigates can be severely damaged. Also, in at least one skirmish/MP map (Terah, I think it was), there is a large cloud of radiation dividing the map into two sections. Perhaps this could be a plausible explanation for the storms from a HW perspective?

Akula · #9 April 26th, 2005, 06:14 AM

I think there's a fenomenom in Cataclysm called slipgates or something similar, the Cal Stooh (not sure about the spelling) uses one of those for a far jump, those could propably serve as some sort of warppoints, it's not a great explanaition, but it's not entirely away from the HW universe, without having to rely solely on the Eye of Arran
Also about constructed gates, I think a large part of the Bentusi escaped through some sort of massive gate a good way into the cataclysm storyline

Actually radiation fields might be a very good explanaition ofr storms, don't they also affect sensors?

A thing to note though, the Dreadnaught isn't a unique ship, Makaan also has one he uses to open Balcora gate, this raises some questions, are there more than one mothership? Or are/was Dreadnaughts generally used as progenitor warships.
Also one might think that the Vaygr somehow has some sort of compatible matrix, after all Makaan is so bend on getting a hold on Sajuuk I really doubdt that he'd waste the time trying to get things like it's weapons systems operational, also as mentioned before the Taiidan also know the word Sajuuk, if I remember correctly they're the only ones that uses it in HW 1, thus there are also some things that point to the Vaygr having some relations to the progenitor

CovertJaguar · #10 April 26th, 2005, 06:40 AM

I've been thinking about how you could implement hyperspace in SEIV and I came up with this idea:

While it is not possible to set a time limit on how long a warp point lasts, it is possible to create an environment in which warp points are inherently unstable and would eventually collapse. This can done using events, by making a low severity event that immediately closes a warp point. You could then adjust the "Event Percent Chance" values in the setting.txt file to control how often a event occurs.

I have attached a zip file with a settings.txt and events.txt that demonstrate this effect. After a certain amount of turns after a game starts, in which I believe no events can occur and appears to be hard coded, a warp point will be closed somewhere in the galaxy each turn.

This would allow you to place warp-openers on say your mothership and use it to open a hyperspace gate that will close in a few turns. I think this is as close to the Homeworld system as SEIV will allow.