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Old July 13th, 2005, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 1st Cav, 1969-71 Operations

Some ideas for the Chapters:

-Steming the NVA: The Ia Drang valley Campaign (Sep-Dec. 1965)
-The coastal campaign: The 1st Cav in Binh Dinh province (Jan-Mar. 1966)
-Battles on two fronts: Screening the cambodian border and rooting the NVA out of Binh Dinh (Mar.-Oct.1966)
-Pacification: Taming Binh Dinh once and for all (Oct.66-Jan 1968)
-Cavalry to the rescue! Northern I Corps Tet Offensive campaign (Hue - Quang Tri - Khe Sanh - A Shau Jan.-Oct 68)
-The Cav moves South: Screening Saigon (Oct.68-May 70)
-Into the Unknown: Cambodia incursion (May-June 70)
-Stand Down and Redeployement: The final years (July 70-June 72)
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Old July 13th, 2005, 01:10 PM
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Some ideas for the Chapters:

-Steming the NVA: The Ia Drang valley Campaign (Sep-Dec. 1965)
-The coastal campaign: The 1st Cav in Binh Dinh province (Jan-Mar. 1966)
-Battles on two fronts: Screening the cambodian border and rooting the NVA out of Binh Dinh (Mar.-Oct.1966)
-Pacification: Taming Binh Dinh once and for all (Oct.66-Jan 1968)
-Cavalry to the rescue! Northern I Corps Tet Offensive campaign (Hue - Quang Tri - Khe Sanh - A Shau Jan.-Oct 68)
-The Cav moves South: Screening Saigon (Oct.68-May 70)
-Into the Unknown: Cambodia incursion (May-June 70)
-Stand Down and Redeployement: The final years (July 70-June 72)
These are great for ToOs
The chapters will be included in the ToOs.
The only difference should be that instead ending with "the final years" we will continue with the Alternate history!

Stephane by using the ToOs could you please create Chapters (Chapter include a mission type).
So for example in the first ToO: -Steming the NVA: The Ia Drang valley Campaign (Sep-Dec. 1965)

How many and what kind of chapters, may we include?
You should consider that the core force during this ToO will have the size of 2-3 platoons; we may use several AUX elements, but with such a small core force we should be able to play some special missions like the one you have suggested (for the crushed helicopter)

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Stephane (or anyone else who is interested),

Could you please make a selection of 10 historical battles/operations of the 1st CAV division in order to form the historical ToOs?

If you could add some description/location and little info for each battle/operation it would be great!

I hope next week we could make an early selection of the historical battles/operations for the campaign and then we may use this selection as the backbone of the campaign.
Then we will add other fictional battle in between and we should start the designing of the appropriate chapters.

In each ToO, we will include 1-3 Historical chapters (probably connected) and a couple of fictional chapters for mission diversity.

So,
1. First we choose the Historical battles/operations and this way we define the campaign ToOs.
2. We design/define the historical chapters (inside the ToOs) and we try to add a couple (or more) fictional chapters in a novel type of history (we have to respect campaign connectivity)
3 Then, we should describe exactly the type of mission in each chapter.
4. Then, according to the number of ToOs and the nature of historical chapters we should decide the evolution of the core force (very difficult and critical activity).
As a general rule you should respect that the early missions should be design for a light core force, while the late missions should be designed for a quite big core force.
Of course we may achieve equilibrium and balance in the early missions by adding AUX friendly units.

Critical activity
But for the moment we should focus on the formation of the ToOs and then in the writing of exciting campaign scenery with a lot of "up and down".

Cheers,
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p.s I think you may find in the 1st CAV DIV thread a lot of historical info for the dates and types of battles/missions.
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I'm doing it right now, should be ready when you're coming back from vacation.
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Default Re: 1st Cav, 1969-71 Operations

Here's the first part of what I did (first two ToOs), tell me if that's what you have in mind:

Steming the NVA: The Ia Drang valley Campaign Sep-Dec. 1965 (ToO#1) [*]Chapter 1, A New Home: the 1st Cav arrives at An Khe
Here we can have some shake down operations to get the player accustomed to his units, for example:
Op. Op.Good Friend II/Sayonara (joint Army/USMC/ROK road security along Route 19 from Qui Nonh to Binh Khe)
Op.Happy Valley I & II (pacification in Vinh Thanh Valley)
Op.Lonesome End (security of the famous Mang Yang Pass)[*]Chapter 2, Plei Me under Siege: Send in the First Team
Here the serious business begins, the Cav must relieve a besieged SF camp and pursue the retreating NVAs:
Op. All the Way with a battle for an NVA field Hospital, an ambush near cambodian border, an battle for a hot LZ etc...[*]Chapter 3, Cavalry Pursuit: Breaking the NVA
Here are the famous battles of the campaign with terrible fightings for LZ X-Ray, Albany and Columbus.

The Coastal Campaign: The 1st Cav in Binh Dinh province Jan-Mar. 1966 (ToO#2) [*]Chapter 4, A Change of Scenery: The Coastal Sands
Operation Masher/White Wing begins here, the largest search and destroy operation to date with US (1st Cav), ROK (Capital Div) and ARVN (22nd Division) units aimed at breaking the NVA and VC grip on the populous Binh Dinh province north of Qui Nonh. We can have such missions as an Air Assault on a fortified Village (Cu Nghi), the rescue of a downed Chinook, etc...[*]Chapter 5, Into the Valley: Clearing the An Lao
Here Operation White Wing leaves the coast with the 1st Cav entering the feared An Lao valley NW of Bong Son and evacuating its population.[*]Chapter 6, Striking South: Battle of the Kim Son
Continuing Operation White Wing, the cav assaults another NVA stronghold, the Kim Son valley (aka the Crow's Foot). Here we can have pretty tough battles vs NVA bunker complexes and B-52s arc light raids!
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Looks good Boonierat!
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Default Re: 1st Cav, 1969-71 Operations

well I posted else where, and to me this seems almost tlaior made for Paltoon then Company then battlion style you want:

Details: (P29)
Left Charlston on Aug 16th on the transport ship USNS Maurice Rose
Arived Qui Nhon mid september

Joined up with advanced party who with the help of the 101 Airborne had secured an area of scrub jungle.
Rougth discription:
North of An Khe, 42 miles west of Qui Nhon.
On east side, an old airstrip with ahree story building on the NW side of the airstrip.

When complete the base:
12 mile long, 100 yard wide defense parimiter. Able to hold the divisions fixed and rotory wing assests. no permamant structures apart form bunkers.
battlions take turns in holding parimter, running patrols and setting OP's.
During the first few weeks a few light probes from VC.
Sniper activety on patrols.
Another battlions mascot (A mule) KIA.


1st Barigade's fight:

Hosptial fight: Nov 1 (P32)
Searching for the NVA who attacked Plei Mei SF base and ambushed the ARVAN relief coloum.
aprox 12 enemy spotted by Air-scout's fired on and scattered.
Moments later another group of NVA spotted, Troops landed on the ground (I Guess about coy strength). leading to the capture of a NVA feild hospital. total enemy KIA 15, POW 44.
That afternoon NVA counter attack, 4 hours later 1x battlion flown in. Estimated enemy KIA 250.

Trail Ambush, Nov 3, (P33)
3 platoon sized ambushes set around the Ia drang River trail.
1 Plt on trial other two set 1 mile to the north.
An NVA coloum appraoches and stops about 120 yards south for rest break shortly after 2100 they move through the ambush site. The Troopers let the coloum pass but when the HW coy arrives they attack with claymores.
Then all troops fall back to LZ for pick up.where they are counter attacked by the NVA. 1 coy is flown in to renforce the troops.
NVA strength 1x Rifle Coy, 1x Heavy weapons Coy.


3rd brigades fight

12 nov. 2323
The brigade's HQ, Avation fuel store and engineer facitlites are attacked, a 1 hour battle follows in which the VC are driven off.

LZ X-ray
LZ Albanay
LZ Falcon
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