Loosing on purpose: morally justifiable?

Leslie · #1 July 23rd, 2005, 07:04 PM

There is no second place in life, but there is in games.

Someone HAS to be second place (unless you are playing solo eh). The AI doesn't count either.

I can't expect everyone to game the way I do, but, anyone that would get emotional about losing, is likely best not played a second time.

I think losing sucks, but I am human, but, I CAN deal with it.
I won't be playing anyone a second time that can't say that.

I once had a rolegame character that was clearly being given to much protection for the sake of preserving the game's "storyline".
I confronted the GM and made it clear, if I could NOT be killed, the GM could expect me to ignore anything that was a threat, because I had no reason to care.

There can be no thrill of victory, in the absence of the potential of defeat.
Winning when there is no chance of losing, is as boring as never winning.

So, if you can never lose, you have to either pick another game, or intentionally alter the situation to allow for it.

Mephisto · #2 July 24th, 2005, 06:53 AM

I'd give them a fighting chance by not seizing every opprotunity to crush them. After all I play the game to play it with my friends, not just to win.
As in a RPG the fun lies in the contest and playing WITH, not against my friends.

Leslie · #3 July 24th, 2005, 08:35 AM

If a person is a "total novice" I tend to overly state every permutation of potential action during training games.

I never play a person as an equal, when it is clear they ain't.

For me, well, when I am new to a game, I EXPECT the first few games to be short and not important to finish fully. If I make a serious flub, I expect to be allowed to concede the game, learn from the error and move on to the next try.

I tend to avoid "lenthy" games with people that really don't understand the game ie I will NOT set up The Longest Day, just to watch a player completely ruin their turn 1, only because they didn't have a clue what they were doing. It takes altogether to much effort to set that game up, only to have the effort wasted in under 15 minutes.

The_Tauren13 · #4 July 24th, 2005, 08:09 PM

To clarify my answer for #2 "Neither of these.":
I would use the opportunity to try out new strategies that I think are pretty crappy. So, while not trying to lose by any means, I would not be playing at my best.

quantum_mechani · #5 July 25th, 2005, 12:29 PM

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The_Tauren13 said:
To clarify my answer for #2 "Neither of these.":
I would use the opportunity to try out new strategies that I think are pretty crappy. So, while not trying to lose by any means, I would not be playing at my best.

Yeah, this is a good one too, a lot of fun.

Phoenix-D · #6 July 25th, 2005, 06:49 PM

Yeah, playing new people is a good way to test new things out.

So is when you're loosing miserably, actually.