A New Middle East

serg3d · #1 July 26th, 2005, 08:30 AM

Here a modified OOBs for speculative Middle East:
All modifications start Jan 2006 and desined for AI PLO and Siria.
Israel get Merkava 4 scout vehicle - carry 6 people and half ammo.
Mercava ICVM moved from 2008 to Jan 2006

All Sirian armor upgraded.
PLO get some new toys.

Things to do: reduce cost for Siria ?

Details :
All Sirian Armor without ERA retied from Jan 2006. BRDM-2, BRDM-2 Koncurs remains. Siria get T72BM1, Chiornij Orel, BMP - 3/3M/3M(V, R), BTR-90, BRM-3/3M,(V), BMP-3 Kornet, BRDM-2 Spandrel. Strela-2 SAM retied.
PLO get Krizantema ATGM team and all russian flamethrowers teams as support for police, hamas and al-aqsa.

JaM · #2 July 26th, 2005, 09:02 AM

Dont you think that it is quite unrealistic to Syria has Black Eagle?This tank is just technology demonstrator. Krisantema for PLO? They will not get them, maybe Kornets from Syria, but it is questionable that Syria will get away any of these missiles, as they are the only chance to kill Izraeli tanks...

serg3d · #3 July 26th, 2005, 09:24 AM

Of cause it's not realistic, but the whole idea of sudden and hugely expensive rearming of the Siria and PLO getting new weapon (and even having Strela-3) considerably less realistic. It's kinde of "what if" alternative reality loosely based on the Putin promise (caused by his complete ignorance in the Middle East situation) to arm PA during his Israel visit. Krisantema for PLO is exacly because Siria have Kornet - to make a difference. BTW I still havn't figured out how to force PLO to use atgm.

JaM · #4 July 26th, 2005, 09:26 AM

What about give them Rpg-29 instead?

serg3d · #5 July 26th, 2005, 10:04 AM

May be give them Rpg-29 too, but I want to see Krizantema vs Merkava in game. In game Kornet seems can not penetrate Merkava 4 effectivly.

JaM · #6 July 26th, 2005, 10:14 AM

But, no one knows how effective armor of Merkava Mk4 is.There are only estimates...

JaM · #7 July 26th, 2005, 10:19 AM

Mk4 looks that it have really strong passive armor,Its turret is well designed without any weakspot. So it is possible that if Leo2A6 has Front turret resistance against HEAT around 150-170,Leclerc same, Mk4 could be in the same region or maybe better as it is much newer tank, and Israeli are well known as leaders in military technology.

serg3d · #8 July 26th, 2005, 10:47 AM

In game I have seen Kornet hit front Merkava 4 turret, it was something like 138 vs 198

JaM · #9 July 26th, 2005, 11:17 AM

Krisantemas will not make any better...

serg3d · #10 July 26th, 2005, 11:46 AM

Yep, it seems it have less penetration then Kornet. Looks like there is no russian top-attack ATGM. Give them Swedish Bill ?