Silver Lions Campaign - Now Available ! !

Double_Deuce · #1 August 7th, 2005, 04:12 PM

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DD.......is there some reason why the "M60 Mine Plough" (unit 197 ) wasn't usable in this case?? It uses the same 105mm M68 80 gun as the other M60A3's

I don't rememeber why. I started this in SPMBT (DOS) and not sure that unit was there. the M1 w/plow was but not an M60. For some reason I modified a M728 CEV. Probably was in too big of a hurry to look for a proper unit.

MacGalin · #2 August 9th, 2005, 04:39 AM

I'm currently playing Silver Lions, and it seems that primary MBT for '85 is... T-10M! I've encountered them in two missions.

I havent't finished the campaign yet, but it's hind of strange to see tanks that should be in museums, lading attacks on NATO lines...

Only modern tank i've seen so far was Czech T-72. (I'm not counting some T-62s in one of the missions)

So i have to ask - are these T-10s placed for purpose, or is it just a bug? I'm using standart russian oob, no modifications.

Double_Deuce · #3 August 9th, 2005, 09:58 AM

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I havent't finished the campaign yet, but it's hind of strange to see tanks that should be in museums, lading attacks on NATO lines...

Only modern tank i've seen so far was Czech T-72. (I'm not counting some T-62s in one of the missions)

So i have to ask - are these T-10s placed for purpose, or is it just a bug? I'm using standart russian oob, no modifications.

No bug. As part of our training we practiced scenarios involving all types of equipment. While rare, there was a small possibility we could have faced these if the war dragged on and attrition began to set in. My main reason though for adding them into the campaign was just to add variety.

Also, since we were still equipped with M60's at that time (actualy were until after June 1987) it would be hardly fair for the player to have to face hoards of T80's and T72's.

MacGalin · #4 August 9th, 2005, 11:12 AM

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No bug. As part of our training we practiced scenarios involving all types of equipment. While rare, there was a small possibility we could have faced these if the war dragged on and attrition began to set in. My main reason though for adding them into the campaign was just to add variety.

Also, since we were still equipped with M60's at that time (actualy were until after June 1987) it would be hardly fair for the player to have to face hoards of T80's and T72's.

Ahh. I see. Well, that makes sense, althrough i disagree with your opinion that that replacing T-10 with T-64s / T-80s / T-72s would be unfair. Sure, they are better armored & armed, but M-60TTS have thermal sights, wich, (at least in game) gives them great advantage over any russian tank. And their 105 mm guns and FCS works good enough against any opponent of the era

. [Of course if you got the mortars to smoke the area]

[ Besides, battles should never be fair. In real life, if a battle is fair, it usually means that commander of one of the sides failed to do his job properly

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IMO, in campaign, russians should be starting with top-of-the line equipment, and older tanks should appera in later battles, as B & C category units are brought to battlefield.

Anyway, good work, man. I really enjoy playing that campaign. [Althrough it is a bit too easy for me. I've hoped tht russians will put a better fight

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Double_Deuce · #5 August 9th, 2005, 11:28 AM

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IMO, in campaign, russians should be starting with top-of-the line equipment, and older tanks should appera in later battles, as B & C category units are brought to battlefield.

I was taking into account that 3/8 Cav and 2nd ACR would have decimated the lead WP units in the intial days of the war with little left by the time they got to 8th ID.

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MacGalin said:Anyway, good work, man. I really enjoy playing that campaign. [Althrough it is a bit too easy for me. I've hoped tht russians will put a better fight

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I've gotten several comments from players who said it was pretty easy BUT I've gotten a few emails from those who can't get past the 2nd Scenario.

What I would like to do once I get more familar with the Enhanced CD Editor Tools is do a LARGE Silver Lion Campaign. I will also need to learn more about Campaign design such as determining adequate but challenging build and support points settings. I am finding its alot more than just stringing together individual scenarios and calling it a campaign.

Shadowcougar · #6 August 9th, 2005, 01:58 PM

DD,

I am also working on a 1988 campaign and a large and its going to be tough. I have the first map done and am placing the forces now.

I hope you can help me with it. I have read the editor help and understand about 2/3rds of it.

Double_Deuce · #7 August 9th, 2005, 02:19 PM

Shadow - Do you have the CD Version with the extra Editor? I would take my time with it as far as setting waypoints for the AI forces and stuff. The mention of a Reaction "98" where defening units can be made to stay in place looks very promising.

Do you have MS Excel? Just wondering as I have recreated the Campaign Design Matix in it and it works wonders for keeping me organized when linking the scenario and setting Buold/Support points.