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Old August 20th, 2005, 01:33 PM

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Default Re: obat44 - West Germany

Thanx to Fab for his permission to use his
excellent site.

Here a pic of the new arty screen:

http://www.alpha-q.de/AlphaOOBArtyScreen.jpg

Here a pic of the new misc screen:

http://www.alpha-q.de/AlphaOOBMiscScreen.jpg


Instructions:

Unzip to your CUSTOM ( ! ) OOB folder and select
this OOB with the tool "manage OOB" which is included in WinSPMBT.
To view pics unzip in folder of your choice and open with .jpg viewer
of your choice or internet browser.

Updates done:

Weapons added:
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- HK 502 shotgun
- 2 police weapons
- Roland 2 AA missile

Units added:
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- Polizei Trupp ( represent civil police but also "Feldjaeger of the Bundeswehr )
- Bundesgrenzschutz troops ( BGS - paramilitary German forces without conscripts so a bit better exp + morale than normal grunts - only light inf. weapons though )
- Luftwaffe Sicherung ( LW - Sich, these are LW troops mainly for the protection of airfields, Nato bunkers, radars, AA instalations etc. - light inf weapons, trucks and AA )
- Kampfschwimmer ( elite diver troops of the Bundesmarine )
- Engineer tank Dachs ( impr. version of PioPz. 1 )
- Roland 2 SPSAM ( impr. version of Roland 1 )
- AA MG unit ( Fla MG )
- Bulldozer ( Mehrzweck Raupe - use like eng. tanks )
- Armored trucks ( gep. LKW ) ( represents armored trucks like in use at the balcans KFOR )
- some fort types added
- modernized heavy helo
- Mountain guns have now also + 5 morale + exp.
- packmules for mountain troops added ( Germany uses them still AFAIK )
- 81 mm M3 halftrack instead 120mm ( early Bundeswehr )
- Kraka Para transport

Most of these units you´ll find in the "misc" folder.....

Mountain troops now have +5 mor + exp, PzH2000 upgraded with +1 ROF and some firecontrol for direct fire that they are capable of for self defense, but a bit more expensive, Bell UH1D has now correct name, SP mortars ammo loadout ( HS30 and Hotchkiss lowered, Hotchkiss was small tank! but M113 has more ammo ), Tampella mortars now have slightly better range + accuracy compared to older ones and are a bit more expensive, Alouette heli carry lowered, Luchs now is really usefull and represents better real capability of this tank, Wiesel 1 + 2 names and weapon loadout ( had too much missiles in orig. OOB ), Stinger is called Fliegerfaust 2 in Germany, impr. Hawk SAM date corrected ( became much later available as in orig. OOB ), Roland loadout now correct ( 2 missiles in launcher, 8 in magazine ), most names of arty and misc formations changed ..and much other stuff. ( for example i found a wiesel in the orig OOB with 21 (!!) TOW missiles - corrected to real loadout of 8 ! )
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Default Re: obat44 - West Germany

This migth be a problem. The PzGrKp in the mid-80's have a 7 man command element. However the Marder 1 A2 only takes 6. Is this correct? I can see that the A2+ with its MILAN kit would have less space than the A1, but why has the A2 one less carrying capacity than the A1?
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but why has the A2 one less carrying capacity than the A1?
No problem here. All A2s have a carrying capacity of 6 men, that was a result of the Milan upgrade in the 80s. The (+) only tells you whether the milan is mounted (+) or dismounted. Dismounting the Milan does, however, not increase the carrying capacity of the A2.

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So then ones company use both A1 and A2/A2+, or you leave the company comander on foot (the 7 man company comandsquad won't fit A2/A2+). I'm not used to companies carrying 2 diffrent models of APC.

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So then ones company use both A1 and A2/A2+, or you leave the company comander on foot (the 7 man company comandsquad won't fit A2/A2+). I'm not used to companies carrying 2 diffrent models of APC.

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Obviously unit 252 needs to be reduced from 7 to 6 men and the problem is solved.

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