Soviet auto-loaders

[kevineduguay1]

There may be a temporary solution. If you raise the ROF of Western tanks to 14 this will raise the on board ROF of their main guns by 1. This will at least help. Going higher, (like into the 20s or more) have effects that could tip the balance of play too much.

Test it! I did!

Edit, This should only apply to Western tanks after the Russians have gun tube launched ATGM.

Edit, P.S. DRG ROF can be changed!

[Marcello]

Some interesting bits

http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/

"What makes T-64-style autoloader notably faster than that of T-72 is the presence of 'sequence' mode. When it is enabled, the loading mechanism continuously loads the rounds of the same type without any gunners intervention. In addition, the rotation of the carousel to get the new round is done immediately after the previous round has been loaded, in parallel with the firing procedure. This allows to perform all the blocking loading operations in under 5 seconds. T-90 has received similar advancement in autoloader logic.

Advances in the autoloader design along T-64 and T-80 line also include the reverse rotation of the carousel thus allowing much faster cycles when the magazine is partially depleted."

Of course the above does not apply to older T-72s and the accurate representation of barrel fired ATGMs
is a problem in the game, just like ERA.BUT the fact that your T-80UM can pump out rounds as fast as an Abrams is not really a mistake.With an adequate loading plan for the autloader it should be able to do that.

[Marcello]

"Even now they only have a modified suspention of a T-54."

I do not get it.Can you explain me how the suspensions of a T-64 are the same of a T-54? The layout seems quite different to me.

[Alpha]

comke on, the M1 is crap, russian stuff much better !

[Alpha]

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[kevineduguay1]

Alpha,

Things are looking up with this new PATCH!

[DRG]

kevineduguay1 said:

Edit, P.S. DRG ROF can be changed!

Congratulations. You discovered that if you toss oddball numbers into the OOB's sometimes you can get the results you want even as people tell you the reason you want to do it is flawed and WILL throw the game balance off ( yep kevin.. it is a game ). Depending on the experience 13 or so will get you one extra and 17 or so will get you two more. And giving all the "western" tanks a one shot advantage on top of all the other advantages they enjoy will satisfy you and maybe a handful of other people but that's it. I am not changing the official game OOB's. They do not need to be. The other factors already give "western" tanks all the advantage they need and the game plays well.

Don

[kevineduguay1]

DRG,

I did test the higher numbers and it was too much. But the ability to fire one extra round will at least close the ROF gap with out having to go to almost unrealistic experience ratings.
With my suggested ROF the Western tanks within the same experience rating field will still have a one shot dis-advantage unless moving were they would gain a shot.
Also when the Russian built tanks run out of ATGM and both sides have the same experience their ROFs will be even.

[kevineduguay1]

Like the advantage of their experience rating?

Or why their guns are 2 to 3 points less in the accuracy rating? (While not true of all Western tanks with 120mm guns, some of which have guns from the same manufactuer.)

[DRG]

kevineduguay1 said:
Or why their guns are 2 to 3 points less in the accuracy rating? (While not true of all Western tanks with 120mm guns, some of which have guns from the same manufactuer.)

Kevin, if you'd bothered to read the list of patch changes you would have read that the accuracy issue of smoothbore guns has already been addressed but don't let that stand in the way of you flogging your "point" to death. Those changes to the smoothbore accuracy have been "news" for a month now. It's point 56 if you're interested. When the patch comes out you and other like minded players can have fun debating the merits of those adjustments.

Don