OT: Revised Edition Star Trek

NullAshton · #1 September 22nd, 2005, 04:47 PM

I have the technical manual for the Enterprise-D. So all your questions about that ship, I can answer. I've also seen every TNG episode ever made, all the movies, most of the Enterprise episodes, and quite a few Voyager episodes...

Wolfman77 · #2 September 22nd, 2005, 05:10 PM

I think I have the same book.

Cloak detection: Exhaust, Tachyons, or neither? I'm partial to the tachyon method myself. Anyone else, for or against?

Suicide Junkie · #3 September 22nd, 2005, 05:40 PM

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Wolfman77 said:
I think I have the same book.

Cloak detection: Exhaust, Tachyons, or neither? I'm partial to the tachyon method myself. Anyone else, for or against?

The thermodynamic impossibility of making it completely emissionless?

You can do pretty good, by limiting power generation and concentrating your emissions in hard-to-detect forms and directions, though.

You could also buffer the emissions temporarily... for thermal emissions, it would be like refridgerating the outer hull and pumping all the heat into a specially designed container until it melts down.

Wolfman77 · #4 September 22nd, 2005, 05:47 PM

I think, in one TNG episode they mentioned that they had mastered thermodynamics. Have they ever used thermal sensors to detect cloaked ships?

Kamog · #5 September 23rd, 2005, 01:27 AM

"Quadrant" means something different depending on which Star Trek series. In TOS, there were many many quadrants in the galaxy, but in STNG there are only four: Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma.

The linear warp speed scale of TOS made more sense than the warp-10 maximum scale later on. With the 10-maximum scale, it's hard to say how fast one warp factor is compared to another. For example, how much faster is warp 9.9 compared to warp 9.8? Is it just 1% faster, or is more like 10 times faster? How do you calculate the actual speed?

Starhawk · #6 September 22nd, 2005, 05:11 PM

Anyone remember the original pilot for ST? Captain Pike (with Constitution Enterprise) had a crew of 150 or something like that although granted he lost a third of his crew somehow but still anyone remember that?

Although some people say it was not in fact the Constitution class enterprise but instead just a very similar hull configuration, like the "DReadnought" which was basically just an oversized constitution with three engines.

Wolfman77 · #7 September 22nd, 2005, 05:18 PM

I remember one where they put him on trial, I think. It's been a while so I might be completly confused. I don't remember and details though.

NullAshton · #8 September 22nd, 2005, 05:27 PM

Theoretically, it can be done for either. Tachyons are emitted by the cloaking device, which CAN be masked... The helium exhaust can just be placed in empty deutrium tanks.

Atrocities · #9 September 23rd, 2005, 01:49 AM

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Starhawk said:
Anyone remember the original pilot for ST? Captain Pike (with Constitution Enterprise) had a crew of 150 or something like that although granted he lost a third of his crew somehow but still anyone remember that?

Although some people say it was not in fact the Constitution class enterprise but instead just a very similar hull configuration, like the "DReadnought" which was basically just an oversized constitution with three engines.

I have it on DVD. (Of course he would) They were attacked by some race on some planet and suffored a lot of casualities.

I saw the original B&W version when I was a kid. I thought to myself... they made this in the 60's, what visionaries.

They lost that visionary aspect of the show when they turned to treknobable.

El_Phil · #10 September 23rd, 2005, 08:57 AM

I'd go for exhausts myself, there seems no reason for Tachyons other than they're a sci-fi standard. Everyone uses them when they need a clever particle.

Exhausts at least give you clever options and more to work with story wise, whereas if you start being consistent with tachyons cloaks are either easy to penetrate or very very hard to.