What are your favorite units in the game?

[Mustang]

loflyh said:
Ooh, I don't agree APC's are a waste, they can get your infantry from point A to B, usaully faster and saver then if you walk them. Plus, when encountering other infantry, they multiply your combat power forward. Add to this the fact the AI tends to shoot at them first, means they die so your tanks can live long enough to take a few of those Commie Bastard's ...mmm, sorry, just got carried away for a moment.

APCs usually are a waste, but "Personnel Carriers" aren't. Well, I usually play armor battles that take place after 1980, so this might be the reason why, because around 1960-1970 BMPs armed with Saggers are a good way to kill tanks. Other than that, though, modern APCs are pretty expensive. If you just want to move your infantry quickly,get something cheap like an M-113, but I rarely use infantry on the attack. If you want to multiply your combat power forward, that's what tanks are for- Bradleys, etc. are way too expensive considering their limited firepower and the fact that their ATGMs can be defeated by reactive armor. And as for the idea that the AI shoots at them first, if you want to draw fire, just buy trucks or humvees.

Pre-'80's Scenrio. I like to think helocopters perform more functions then mere scouting, hell a jeep can do that soldier. Rapid re-deployment of infantry, scounting, yes that too but let's not forget enemy surpression!! Get yourself a couple of snakes loaded out with Zuni rockets and watch those VC bastards scatter and a minigun at close range, well I did offer them un-conditional surrender, didn't I?

Well, like I said, I usually play post-80s armor games, but I agree that helos are VERY effective against infantry- only if he dosen't have any air defence, though. You have to get close to use them against infantry, and you're very exposed against air defences. Against TANKS, though, helos have good ATGMs by post-1980. Because of their mobility, they can move to the enemy rear and shoot at the tank's rear where reactive armor dosen't go.

As for infantry, it's usually a bad idea to do a heliborne assault unless your enemy dosen't have tanks or is fighting in close terrain.

edit: About the Bm-27s. Go to the Russian purchase screen and look at their cost- 250 points for a batallion. Bm-21s are 161 points and also very powerful.

[wulfir]

Mustang said:
edit: About the Bm-27s. Go to the Russian purchase screen and look at their cost- 250 points for a batallion. Bm-21s are 161 points and also very powerful.

hmm... are you using a custom OOB?

A BM-22 Batallion (year 2003) costs 1386 build pts.
Glanced through the encyclopedia, can't find any BM-27 unit in the Russian OOB.

[hoplitis]

When there is infantry involved,Snipers can be very useful. And I mean the "heavy" type.
And on the lighter side, my most favorite are... enemy units!... the destroyed ones :^)

[Mustang]

I don't know, I'm using the version 2.5 OOB and I was playing a PBEM game with a guy. Maybe its a bug? Also, make sure you look at the on-map BM-27 because the off-map is more expensive.

Snipers are great for attack or defence. They're better than machine guns in some situations.

[hoplitis]

Mustang & Wilfur,
According to:
www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/9p140.htm
BM-22 and BM-27 are the same thing. The designation BM-27 is the correct one for the 9P140 Uragan (Hurricane)
220-mm Multiple Rocket Launcher which I think is what we are talking about. The 161 building points correspond to a battery of BM-21s (not batallion). The cheapest Uragan I found is the on map battery at 462 points. Nothing close to Mustang's 250. Am I missing something?

[Mustang]

Well, maybe I'm just remembering wrong. Or maybe it was some kind of bug. Regardless, I bought 6 Uragan batallions and 3 paratroop infantry batallions with 5,000 points. Make of that what you want.

[narwan]

I don't think you did, unless there was a serious bug. Three paratroop infantry battallions (nine companies) alone cost just under 5000 points, and that's in the cheapest possible configuration. And without their support companies.

You're sure you haven't got the formation sizes mixed up?Cause you can buy just about 3 airborne COMPANIES and 6 on-map Uragan BATTERIES for 5000 points. That's what I make of it at least.

[Cameronius]

My favorite unit is a can of WHOOP ***!

[narwan]

My favourite unit is the ACMA TAP. Really, it is. Whoever thought that one up is .... uhhh... special....