OT: I know how to solve global warming

[Renegade 13]

With that in mind, I can only urge you to not give up on this line of reasoning - I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad or stupid (although, again, I recognize that my manner of speech does sometimes come across like that - again, very sorry for that) - I am just trying to impart that same enlightenment that I felt when I really, finally, after years, understood what scientific progress and the growth of human knowledge was all about.

And let me say "thanks" for allowing me to debate this topic, especially given that I often come across like an arrogant SOB with a bad attidude.

Don't worry, it would take a lot more than this debate to make me feel stupid! And no, you didn't really come across as arrogant (well, maybe a time or two, but I did too), mostly just passionate.

I really would like to understand your reasoning, but from everything you've said, I can only conclude that you haven't had much experience in the hard sciences. It is fine to question theorems to gain a better understanding of them, but to just reject them out of hand you really do need to present an alternative. Otherwise, you are just an admitted novice that is rejecting the claims of experts in a field just because you don't like some of the evidence.

I'm not rejecting the theories out of hand. I have no doubt that the Earth's mean temperature has been rising for the past century or so. What I call into question is why this is happening. What we need is more exhaustive study, so that anomalies can be explained, the theories revised to account for the anomalies, etc. I guess what I'm essentially saying in my usual roundabout and excessively verbose way is that the theories should not be taken to be complete. They aren't until they can explain more of the glaring anomalies. Some people seem to think that the theory of global warming is complete and infallible; it isn't.

I also think that it is entirely possible that there is a better theory to account for the world's climate today, just someone hasn't thought of it yet. Essentially, I'm a skeptic. I require a lot of convincing.

[EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro]

I still like the reverse Dyson Sphere idea. It beats my idea of reversing global warming by immediate implementation of a Nuclear Winter. C'mon folks lets get it over with!

Hey doesn't Dyson make Vacuum cleaners? Man that would suck!

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Spoken like a true evil genius 4 a better tomorrow.

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Renegade 13 said:
I guess what I'm essentially saying ...is that the theories should not be taken to be complete. They aren't until they can explain more of the glaring anomalies. Some people seem to think that the theory of global warming is complete and infallible; it isn't.

I certainly agree with you here 100%, and I hope I never made the claim that it is an infallible research program - in fact, no research program is infallible, I think, by definition.

I also think that it is entirely possible that there is a better theory to account for the world's climate today, just someone hasn't thought of it yet.

Certainly quite possible as well - although, and this is just my uneducated opinion, I believe that any future research program will accept AGW as it's hard core, and build upon it.

Essentially, I'm a skeptic. I require a lot of convincing.

Yay! Me too. Skepticism is necessary attribute of human progress and civilization. Those who lack skepticism are simply dogmatic zombie horde types who just eat brains. Or something like that.

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