Future European Combat Systems (Germany + France)

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PlasmaKrab said:
Clearly both aren't designed for the same purpose, are they?

Yup, clearly. Just wanted to be bit "patriotic"

Well wasn´t the first real IFV the BMP1 ?

I always thought, that the Marder was a bit to heavy and high (bigger target) compared to BMP. Also the 20mm cannon isn´t as good as 30mm. While i admit that for a timespan the MArder was a good IFV with 20mm, Mg and Milan rockets. Probably a battlegroup mixed with Leopards were quite powerful.