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		| 18. Fixed - Crew were too strong in defense of a ship during ship capture. 
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		| AngleWyrm said:Has anyone successfully boarded a ship that has crew? If so, please do tell, because my attempts have not succeeded, and so I don't understand this bullet. 
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		| AngleWyrm said: EDIT: I have tried setting "Space Combat Crew Boarding Strength := 0.001" (down from 0.1) and it didn't seem to make a difference. Setting it up to 1 (up from 0.1) made the boarding icon disappear within about ten seconds.
 
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		| Spoo said: What about setting it to 0?
 
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 The current problem appears to be that crew simply aren't dying unless they lose life support/crew quarters. Apparently the marines are dying in combat, but the crew is invincibile. 
 So I'd guess setting it to 0 would have the battle rage on, with the crew unable to kill the marines due to being wimpy, while the marines being unable to kill the crew and thus take over due to the fact that the code for that simply doesn't work.
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		| Spoo said: What about setting it to 0?
 
 |  Doesn't help. The crew simply can't be killed no matter how much overkill you've got (I had 50 crew against 500,000 boarding parties- the crew lost..)
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 Well it sound like it a problem with the crew units.   In SE4 it was just boarding attack, and boarding defense.   These are in SE5, but there is a new variable, which is the crew, that doesnt seem to be using boarding defense correctly.
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 Although the boarding bug is REALLY annoying, it sounds like a stupid little programming error that will be easy to fix once found.  Aaron will be embarrassed at his own stupidity (just like I have been many times).  So, short term: AAARGH!  but long term: don't sweat it. 
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 OT: Cool, the spellcheck feature saved me from being embarassed by poor spelling.  Suggest some of you check it out.  (You know who you are!) 
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		| Phoenix-D said: Emssive armor works.
 
 |  Hmmm, I don't know what's wrong then. I have infantry weapons that only do 1-2 damage, and vehicle emissive armor that blocks <=3 damage, but the vehicles still take damage... I'll have to run more tests when I get home.
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