Mod: New Nation: Sanguinia (Update v1.1)

[zepath]

Taqwus, you've pretty much got the idea. Sanguinia is commander-centric to the extreme. The only really viable troop recruits are the Blood Drakes and they are also expensive. As recruitable immortals, the Sanguine vampires are nearly gods themselves. Whichever pretender you choose has simply beaten them to the punch and acquired their loyalty. Thus, if I gave them access to yet more paths (Blood, Earth, and Astral are quite robust) I think they would be well over the top. If you want Death, take the Vampire Queen.

In the play-testing I have done, the Death Dealers are quite nasty against AI players and I can imagine the pain they would be in MP. Waiting to hear if anyone ever uses this nation in an MP game...

Also, was the crash bug in any way related to this mod?

Shovah32, I still haven't been able to sufficiently play-test Sanguinia as I've been giving LA Man and my other nations Teutanion and Sylvania a decent run-through while building two other mods (including a revival of the Underkings from Dom 2). I have noticed that the AI is not very good with Sanguinia -- having thoroughly trounced it twice while playing as other LA nations. It takes a skilled human player to make this nation shine. But shine it apparently can! Thanks for your continued interest and the strategy suggestions!

[Taqwus]

I don't know if the crash bug was related, since it hasn't been diagnosed or fixed -- but I've had two games crash during computation in 3.01, and the only common mods in use were Worthy Heroes, Hunter of Horrors nerfing, and Standards and Streamers. Seem to recall reading that there may be an issue with #clearmagic as used in Worthy Heroes, so I might need to fiddle with that and see what happens -- after a holiday trip, that is.

Personally, I would be annoyed if I had to kill the same pesky assassin over and over again. That alone might be worth something in MP if it affects a player's judgment.

[zepath]

I loaded up Sanguinia today to get some play-testing done as I've been terrible about testing my nations much after releasing them. Shovah32's strategy of tricking out Sanguine Counts with decent magic items and letting them loose on an enemy army with a blessing and Stoneskin or Ironskin is pretty nasty. However, I took a Death-5/Blood-5 Vamp Queen as a pretender instead of a high Earth magic god as Shovah suggests. Still, I didn't have to worry about the spread of my dominion most of the time because the Counts simply would not die. The Counts were given Heart Finder Swords, Lead Shields, the cheap strength-boosting boots, and attack/defense skill boosting misc items. With PD 35 (thanks to a random event) in the home province, I had very little trouble scooping up blood slaves (taking ~10/turn) to make items and then to sick Infernal Disease on enemy commanders. Stalkers, who could cover the entire map in two-three turns in bat form, were given the disease-spreading amulets and sent to the AI capitals. I culled two AI nations in this way -- weakening their base and then invading with uber-Counts supported by Blood Drakes -- before being obliterated by another of my mod nations, Sylvania, who simply had many more troops and those (damn) Aspect Archers.

[DireAussie]

I tried this nation today but commanders dont cast holy spells even when scripted - to see this start a new game and use the first commander to attack and script him to bless himself. He wont do it.

[Sombre]

That sounds like it might be a result of bless not working properly on undead, unless the nation has a hidden #undeadnation or #unholy tag, which Sanguinia doesn't.

There's a hotfix available in the Black Tome of thingjig mod, made by Dr P.

[seej]

So it was intentional that this nation shouldn't be able to bless?

[Burnsaber]

seej said:
So it was intentional that this nation shouldn't be able to bless?

No it's not. There's a bug which prevents undead from being blessed, it should be fixed in the next patch. Until we get the new patch, Download the hotfix http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...&Number=500877