OT: VISTA

Fyron · #1 February 7th, 2007, 08:00 PM

You can't really blame MS for HDCP. They couldn't get a license to support full HDMI output without fully implementing HDCP. If they did not, all they could do is output HDCP-protected video at non-HD resolutions. Your scorn in this instance is more correctly placed at the feet of the content industry (primarily the MPAA). HDCP is only an issue with Blu-ray and HD-DVD, not regular DVD movie playback, which does not have the higher-resolution HD support. The MPAA is obsessed with copy protection, and will only license Blu-ray and HD-DVD technology to companies that are willing to integrate HDCP. If they did not require it, MS wouldn't have bothered implementing HDCP. Display manufacturers (monitors, tvs) have to support HDCP as well, otherwise they won't be able to play high resolution movies. Its quite an insidious system...

MS could have chosen to not support HDCP, but then they could not include software to access Blu-ray and HD-DVD movies (or drives, for that matter) at full resolution. They apparently decided it would be better to support new technology than be left behind, and thus ridiculed for that reason.

Kamog · #2 February 8th, 2007, 02:42 AM

Will these Blu-ray and HD-DVD movies be viewable under XP, or do we need to upgrade to Vista to get them to work?

Fyron · #3 February 8th, 2007, 03:44 AM

You can view them in XP now, through the use of 3rd party software. MS just wanted WiMP to be able to play HDCP protected content at full resolution.

xierxior · #4 February 8th, 2007, 06:01 AM

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Imperator Fyron said:
You can view them in XP now, through the use of 3rd party software. MS just wanted WiMP to be able to play HDCP protected content at full resolution.

trying to prevent piracy has always been and always will be a losing game.
theres already a primitive key decryptor that works on some blueray movies.
I say give it a year and we'll have another dvd decryptor type program that completely makes the protection obsolite as the only way to fight decryptors is to change the keys that are encyrpted onto the disc but if you do that everyone who bought a blueray or hddvd player will be screwed.
mpaa and riaa are just desperatly trying to hold onto a buisiness module that just doesn't work anymore.

xierxior · #5 February 8th, 2007, 06:03 AM

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xierxior said:

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Imperator Fyron said:
You can view them in XP now, through the use of 3rd party software. MS just wanted WiMP to be able to play HDCP protected content at full resolution.

trying to prevent piracy has always been and always will be a losing game.
theres already a primitive key decryptor that works on some blueray movies.
I say give it a year and we'll have another dvd decryptor type program that completely makes the protection obsolite as the only way to fight decryptors is to change the keys that are encyrpted onto the disc but if you do that everyone who bought a blueray or hddvd player will be screwed.
mpaa and riaa are just desperatly trying to hold onto a buisiness module that just doesn't work anymore.

I should add that obveusly once you decrypt the movie you can watch it on just about any version of windows without quality loss and without that hdcp crap.

Fyron · #6 February 8th, 2007, 06:19 AM

That primitive "key decryptor" does not actually do anything to break the encryption. It simply makes use of a stolen player key. No crack in the system has yet been found. Its on the same level as a "decryptor" that simply plays the movie with a legitimate, licensed player and captures it frame by frame.

shinigami · #7 February 8th, 2007, 07:57 AM

You are incorrect, sir. The player's key was not used.

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Fyron · #8 February 9th, 2007, 01:06 AM

Guess I missed that update to the story. Either way, the program still depends on you getting the actual encryption keys involved for each movie. It doesn't just strip off AACS arbitrarily like DeCSS did for DVD encryption.