OT: VISTA

[xierxior]

Imperator Fyron said:
You can view them in XP now, through the use of 3rd party software. MS just wanted WiMP to be able to play HDCP protected content at full resolution.

trying to prevent piracy has always been and always will be a losing game.
theres already a primitive key decryptor that works on some blueray movies.
I say give it a year and we'll have another dvd decryptor type program that completely makes the protection obsolite as the only way to fight decryptors is to change the keys that are encyrpted onto the disc but if you do that everyone who bought a blueray or hddvd player will be screwed.
mpaa and riaa are just desperatly trying to hold onto a buisiness module that just doesn't work anymore.

[xierxior]

xierxior said:

trying to prevent piracy has always been and always will be a losing game.
theres already a primitive key decryptor that works on some blueray movies.
I say give it a year and we'll have another dvd decryptor type program that completely makes the protection obsolite as the only way to fight decryptors is to change the keys that are encyrpted onto the disc but if you do that everyone who bought a blueray or hddvd player will be screwed.
mpaa and riaa are just desperatly trying to hold onto a buisiness module that just doesn't work anymore.

I should add that obveusly once you decrypt the movie you can watch it on just about any version of windows without quality loss and without that hdcp crap.

[Fyron]

That primitive "key decryptor" does not actually do anything to break the encryption. It simply makes use of a stolen player key. No crack in the system has yet been found. Its on the same level as a "decryptor" that simply plays the movie with a legitimate, licensed player and captures it frame by frame.

[shinigami]

You are incorrect, sir. The player's key was not used.

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[Fyron]

Guess I missed that update to the story. Either way, the program still depends on you getting the actual encryption keys involved for each movie. It doesn't just strip off AACS arbitrarily like DeCSS did for DVD encryption.

[shinigami]

The programs don't strip the encryption per say, they work around the encryption in order to save an unencrypted movie to your drive. As for getting the keys, these programs are intended for making a legal back-up of a movie that you have bought, so you already have the key, they just yank it out of memory.

[Suicide Junkie]

As I understand it, they let the player use its personal key to decrypt the movie key.
Then they pick the movie key out of memory and use it to decrypt the movie.

Each player has a key... which all lead to the master movie key, which gives you the movie.
Player keys can be revoked, but if nobody knows which player key was compromised, the only remaining option is to revoke them all, give up, or continue to sue all your customers.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

DRM is just another way to punish the honest customer for the deeds of the pirate.

Rather like gun cotnrol.

[Randallw]

I don't think they have made rolls of gun cotton for decades