Destruction " Abrams " from RPG-7V hit sideways .

Marek_Tucan · #1 February 10th, 2007, 05:15 PM

AFAIK the random number up to Warhead Size parameter is being added to HEAT penetration rating upon impact (note sometimes the HEAT pen is also degraded, sometimes really significantly) - maybe this was the case why the Abrams resisted the shot?

mr_clark · #2 February 11th, 2007, 06:17 PM

Marek has a good point.
Epoletov_SPR: turn up your message delay in the preferences screen and look for the messages appearing at the bottom of the screen. They're quite informative if you want to know what has actually happened. Personally I have them at the middle setting and it gives you all the time you need to read it.

kevineduguay1 · #3 February 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM

RPG's have NEVER totaly destroyed an ABRAMS.
What I mean by this is a catostrophic destruction of the tank.
The few that were taken out were immobilized by hits in the engine compartment. A few of these caught fire and burned out, but the crews survived.

Smersh · #4 February 11th, 2007, 07:39 PM

How many Abrams have been hit by an RPG-7V? that has double the penetration of the old model RPG-7s used by insurgents and iraqi military in the 90s.

a side or rear hit would seriously damage any modern MBT.

a T-72 has never totally destroyed an Abrams does this mean it can't?

Marek_Tucan · #5 February 12th, 2007, 01:32 AM

Just a side note, RPG-7/RPG-7V is just the launching tube

And PG-7V projectile has only one charge, with armor penetration rating being cited anywhere between 260mm and 360mm of RHA, depending on manufacturer

Marcello · #6 February 12th, 2007, 07:56 AM

Quote:

kevineduguay1 said:
RPG's have NEVER totaly destroyed an ABRAMS.
What I mean by this is a catostrophic destruction of the tank.
The few that were taken out were immobilized by hits in the engine compartment. A few of these caught fire and burned out, but the crews survived.

There was at least one well publicized (back then) case where an RPG pierced the side hull armor of the crew compartment and knocked out the tank by disabling several systems. No catastrophic destruction but the tank was disabled and needed depot level repairs. The crew got some wounds as well IIRC albeit nothing life threatening.

Marcello · #7 February 12th, 2007, 08:16 AM

IMHO the Abrams has the safest ammo storage system ever built into a tank.Coupled with the fact that it has never been shot at with up to date weapons on a frequent basis and you get very high survivability. However I doubt that such state of affairs would last if they were shot at daily with RPG-27/29s.

Siddhi · #8 February 12th, 2007, 08:54 AM

an interesting article on abrams fatalities caused by RPG-7.
web page
the publishers of the article are clearly interested in pushing russian tanks, however i did hear about this story from a canadian officer serving with the RGJ in Iraq.

mr_clark · #9 February 12th, 2007, 03:49 PM

And a tank taken out of action can't really be simulated by the game so we assume a penetrating hit kills it.
Fine with me. One needs to keep in mind that making the tank inoperable is as good as a kill, if one assumes 'real' battles and not guerilla warfare like in Iraq or Afghanistan.