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April 3rd, 2007, 06:02 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
Oh yeah, almost forget. Lamia Queens.
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April 3rd, 2007, 06:12 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
IMO ghosts are an excellent troop summon. The spell summons extra ghosts if you have high magic levels. IIRC a death 7 summoner will get 7 ghosts per casting. Death is quite easy to boost with items so it's quick and cheap to gather a powerful army.
Ghosts have a chill aura so don't use them with regular troops. They are frightening, ethereal, drain life and can enter the sea as well as having good stats across the board except for prot - and their etherealness makes up for that in sp at least. Also, unlike wights they don't suffer from exceptionally low battlefield movement. Against the AI they should be overwhelmingly powerful.
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April 3rd, 2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
Thanks to all for the quick replies and guidance.
Now I see that my "scalable" summoning approach is not the most efficient way to proceed... I'll keep my rainbow pretender doing (serious) pretender stuff: boosting research and looking for magical sites early, and bringing powerful summoners later on.
I'll give a try to Ghosts, they have plenty of abilities including stealth, excellent for raiding alongside the Steel and Warrior Maidens!
Another very good Death/Nature trick is the Gift Of Reason + Tartarian Gate combo, although it has a steep death requirements (D7) it's easy to achieve forging some items.
Apart from the Mound Fiends, which other undead commanders have the "Reanimate" ability?
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April 3rd, 2007, 08:41 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
Wraith lords can summon ghosts.
Any undead priest can reanimate, so you could make one your prophet.
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April 4th, 2007, 03:05 AM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
mandragora are the quinticential nature/death undead.
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April 9th, 2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
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Any undead priest can reanimate, so you could make one your prophet.
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I’ve been looking for an unholy priest summoning in the manual, and the only result I’ve found is "Revive Wraith Consul" from Conjuration 7, as described in page 172.
Unfortunately, I think this spell is misplaced in the manual because the Wraith Consul is a LA Ermor specific summoning, and not available to the other Nations.
On top of that, the manual says that the Consul is a Holy 4 priest whilst in Edi’s dB he’s just a level 3 priest.
I suppose these errors have been spotted before, but I haven’t found a post related with this item, sorry.
Due to unholy or non-divine magic is Nation specific (C’Tis Desert Tombs, Ermor Ashen Empire and Pangaea), all the remaining Nations shouldn’t have access to any summonable undead priests. Is that statement correct? Is there a way to get a 'generic' unholy priest (via magical sites maybe)?
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April 9th, 2007, 07:41 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
Mound fiends, summonable by any D3 mage with the research, are undead priests and death mages.
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April 9th, 2007, 09:35 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
Thanks Shovah, I've had a look to Edi's dB and you're right, Mound Fiends (Id 439) are Reanimators, D3 Mages and H2 priests, all in one!
Most of my previous comments were based upon Sunray's "units_dom3.xls", where Mound Fiends have the following incorrect description: can reanimate but does not know unholy spells. For that reason I thought that there was no unholy priest summonings available for all Nations.
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