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May 12th, 2007, 07:35 AM
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Re: OT: Politics
The biggest burden is on the shoulders of every man; to throw down the ring of war into one's own fire where it once was created, not to use its power. As it is bound to corrupt and consume even the strongest mind, leading it on a path unintended; the killing of one's brother and ultimately the destruction of oneself.
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May 12th, 2007, 08:46 AM
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Re: OT: Politics
Well said.
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May 12th, 2007, 02:21 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
I agree. Nicely put.
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May 12th, 2007, 02:32 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
I think I contributed to this nice thread saying "US is a weird place" ... I'm not against US, but you have a strange set of values from european eyes. Only strange, that is like contradicting. We in Italy are very contradicting too, but in a different way. So you appear me very strange. Some examples? I dont want to be thrown off 'cause starting a flame war, and my english grasp is not enough good to argue in an abstract way.
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May 12th, 2007, 02:37 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
When you are American, everyone is strange, especially your own countrymen. 
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May 12th, 2007, 03:16 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
What's the point of starting up something like this? Seems it's just gonna make folks angry for no good reason.
I mean, we've all got cultural differences, but I doubt a political thread in a game forum is the best way to understand them.
Heck, we're all strange, each in our own special way. Arguing about Iraq or global warming here ain't going to accomplish much but cause bad feelings.
I know, I don't need to post here, or read what's posted here. But maybe that should go for everybody. Viva la differance, or whatever it is the French say (those darn dirty Frogs - crap, see what happens when you start a political thread?).
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May 12th, 2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
Free Speech ends when you agree to post on this message board. I would not be surprised if this thread is deleted/locked, or the 2 other OT threads that were started in an attempt to get this one thrown out.
Jazzepi has already shown that if this thread is not taken care of, he intends to spam the forum with random threads pushing game related threads down the list. I would not be sorry if all 3 get locked even though I love hearing other people's opinions on politics.
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May 12th, 2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
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Free Speech ends when you agree to post on this message board. I would not be surprised if this thread is deleted/locked, or the 2 other OT threads that were started in an attempt to get this one thrown out.
Jazzepi has already shown that if this thread is not taken care of, he intends to spam the forum with random threads pushing game related threads down the list. I would not be sorry if all 3 get locked even though I love hearing other people's opinions on politics.
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May 12th, 2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: OT: Politics
I like that this kind of thread is showing up. Yes, the thought of politics mixing with our fantasy escape can be a bit depressing, but it's also a good sign that we're evolving as a community, not just in relation to the game, but in relation to ourselves.
Yes it does belong here, and I hope it stays. I'll contribute what I can to keep it a civil conversation with aspirations of enlightenment, but truly, this is an example of free speech and free will. Please try to understand that such things are in real danger in the times we live in (as they always have been).
Free speech isn't a right, it's a privelage, it's one of the benefits of 500 years of bloodshed and sacrifice, and the will and strength found in the weakest, poorest, most prosecuted of people to both stand against the entire world, and change the world. Good people, people you would have liked, died for it, in droves. It's really, *really* important, and it should be protected and held sacred as a big part of what makes life worth living.
The public domain of the world will never be exactly the way you or I want it to be, and that's beautiful. If you don't like it, have the willpower to either change the channel or change your mind. Freedom comes with those kinds of choices and the responsibility to make them.
The trade-off is that, here in the U.S. you have as good a chance as anywhere in the world of living your private life exactly the way you want to.
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