R'lyeh Dreamlands and Void Summoning

[Humer]

IIRC from previous Void Gate threads, two things are suggested having an effect on Gate summonings:

1) Summoning skill. Basically the higher, the better (and more likely) summons. But you no longer get Vastnesses from Gate once your summoning skills gets too high. Quantity (and quality of Otherness) will improve, though.

2) Luck scale. Higher the better.

Wouldn't be surprised if some items provided bonuses for Gate users (Lucky pendant and Nethgul come first to mind). Or summoner's skill in astral magic.

As said earlier in this thread, exact Gate mechanics have never been revealed, so I'd hazard a guess that 'retiring' your dedicated summoner and replacing her with a new recruit could result in more Vastnesses (eventually, if you're lucky), once your summoners skill hits the 'magic range'.

[Psientist]

Has anyone else ever observed their Void Gate "drying up" somewhere around turn 80-100? It has seemed to happen to me a couple of times.

[Salamander8]

I love MA R'Lyeh (I haven't really tried LA yet) and the void gate is a big part why. I always use a priest Starspawn or the Cthugul special hero in the gate myself. You get quite a lot of weird results, from Things of Many Eyes to such lovelies as the Vastness or Greater Othernesses.

I'm curious about the returning scripting as well. It states you cannot cast it if you are already at he capital, so I have never scripted it for this purpose yet. I tend to throw immobile summons as the summoners bodyguards, but I don't give him items. It's not like the immobile guys have a lot else to do.

[chrispedersen]

Salamander8 said:
I love MA R'Lyeh (I haven't really tried LA yet) and the void gate is a big part why. I always use a priest Starspawn or the Cthugul special hero in the gate myself. You get quite a lot of weird results, from Things of Many Eyes to such lovelies as the Vastness or Greater Othernesses.

I'm curious about the returning scripting as well. It states you cannot cast it if you are already at he capital, so I have never scripted it for this purpose yet. I tend to throw immobile summons as the summoners bodyguards, but I don't give him items. It's not like the immobile guys have a lot else to do.

Returning works great. Using immobiles as body guards help. After summoning skill gets over 10-20, switch to a new sucker, er, priest to avoid drying out.

LA; correct only the real prophet spreads dominion.

[Shovah32]

Psientist said:
Has anyone else ever observed their Void Gate "drying up" somewhere around turn 80-100? It has seemed to happen to me a couple of times.

Try using a new summoner. I believe after a certain summoning level it becomes more difficult to summon things(this applies atleast to summoning vastnesses afaik) for balance purposes.

[Endoperez]

I understood it wasn't "for balance purposes" as much as "no one will ever get the summoning skill this high, so there's no need to add anything more" without taking A) the spell Returning and B) Gift of Health and/or Chalice into account.

[Jazzepi]

Endoperez said:
I understood it wasn't "for balance purposes" as much as "no one will ever get the summoning skill this high, so there's no need to add anything more" without taking A) the spell Returning and B) Gift of Health and/or Chalice into account.

I think it would be really cool if they added some super rare, super uber stuff you could get out of the void gate.

Jazzepi

[Endoperez]

Jazzepi said:

I think it would be really cool if they added some super rare, super uber stuff you could get out of the void gate.

Jazzepi

Vastness IS that super uber stuff you can get out of the void gate. However, as I said, high summoning skill is much easier to get than the devs thought.

[Kristoffer O]

> However, as I said, high summoning skill is much easier to get than the devs thought.

You might be right there.