eye shield

MaxWilson · #1 July 10th, 2007, 12:27 PM

Vans have high MR, so if it works well against them I suspect it's not based on MR.

-Max

Xietor · #2 July 10th, 2007, 01:06 PM

Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes" and if memory serves, was not that substantial a detriment. The clear implication was it still saw well enough with its remaining eyes to hit you quite well.

lch · #3 July 10th, 2007, 01:28 PM

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Xietor said:
Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes"

Yes, Wyrms and other critters only get the affliction "Lost some eyes", regardless how many eyes they lose. They never turn blind from eyeloss. I think I already reported that as a bug.

TwoBits · #4 July 10th, 2007, 02:39 PM

Maybe there needs to be a second step for multiple-eyed creatures - "lost some more eyes". Then a third, obvious step - "lost all your eyes".

Xietor · #5 July 10th, 2007, 04:14 PM

I think the eyeshield is fine as is. There is no need to have 1 item work against everything you face.

Baalz · #6 July 10th, 2007, 04:58 PM

No doubt, blind/more than 2 eyed units are relatively rare. I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to field against an eye shield equipped SC. It's often not terribly difficult to become (virtually) immune to the offensive spells your opponent's national mages can cast, so if you can't really kill him with spells, he's too tough to kill with regular units, and any of your tougher dudes are likely to be blind a couple rounds into combat.....what's that leave you? This is a con-4 item, seems a bit odd there isn't a reasonable counter short of fairly extreme measures.

Reverend Zombie · #7 July 10th, 2007, 05:07 PM

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Baalz said:
This is a con-4 item, seems a bit odd there isn't a reasonable counter short of fairly extreme measures.

If the effect is "MR negates", then high MR units seem a good, non-extreme counter. I've used the shield against even average MR units, and they don't seem to be automatically suffering the eye loss.

Or, attack with your own Eye Shield thug.

Use physical damage spells.

Focus on routing the rest of the attacking army so that he will retreat.

Edi · #8 July 11th, 2007, 09:58 AM

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lch said:

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Xietor said:
Eyeshield is not great against spiders, as it gives them an affliction "lost some eyes"

Yes, Wyrms and other critters only get the affliction "Lost some eyes", regardless how many eyes they lose. They never turn blind from eyeloss. I think I already reported that as a bug.

First time I've seen it right here...