Dragon Master

[CUnknown]

So, it doesn't even work for Tarrasques? Where's the logic there? I can see the point made for Iron Dragons, but Tarrasques would seem like ideal candidates for the spell.

I would assume that it's a bug if it doesn't work for Tarrasques? Honestly, it doesn't even seem all that unbalancing, either.. it's not like Tarrasques are seen all that much anyway (from what I understand). I think there should be other powerful dragon summons as well.. like Fire Dragons, Ice Dragons, etc.. They could be on par with Dragon Pretenders (only not commanders). It would give water and fire paths some good summons for the late-game.

And if Dragons start to dominate the game, well, bring out the Dragon-Slaying swords and the like. This all seems like win-win to me.

Maybe there could be a random chance like for Tartarian Gate that you get a Dragon commander who has skill in magic, even. Maybe also a random chance that the dragon you summon just eats the summoner in an assassination attempt, hehe.

[Saint_Dude]

Oh yes! Bring on the dragons!

I think the idea of multiple dragon types (fire, ice, etc.) is terrific, as is the idea of dragon-slaying weapons (cool and unique).

It would also be fun if dragons were not uniform in stats. Older dragons could be rarer but also bigger and more powerful.

[Sombre]

It's quite easy to mod in bigger drakes, dragons etc as summons (though not so easy if you want variance like you get with the tartarians), just so you know.

I think Illwinter steered clear of lots of dragons on purpose - keeping them basically only as pretenders reinforces how special and unusual they are. It also differentiates Dom3 from other such fantasy games where dragon summons and the like are usually the top of the tech tree.

[Meglobob]

There are alot of higher level summon spells that are as or more powerful than the vast majority of pretenders already. So why not change Terrasques/Iron Dragons to be effected by Dragon Master?

Its all very high level, end of game stuff anyway, so at that stage so much heavy duty stuff is flying around I cannot see any problem with balance. A well equipped SC would still take out dragons fairly easily. Just like tartarians are killed in a couple of battle rounds at present.

[Ironhawk]

QM has claimed to have used this spell effectively with Wyverns and ... some other dragon. Cave Drakes maybe? Dont really recall.