New Mod Nations Game: Mods over Europe (finished)

[Xox]

Pirate lies!!

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Sombre said:
You don't see Kharam Dzu doing that - we've offered fair diplomatic relations to everyone we've met, including you.
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You did not offer fair diplomatic relations to (me) Ulm. You saw their weakness in the all knowing graphs and refused to negotiate.

[Sombre]

"You lied!"

"Uh, pirate?"


You basically told us to stay out of scandinavia because it belonged to you. As with Haida, you appeared to lack the power to go making a claim like that, so we found it rather insulting. We didn't issue a written response (IIRC) because our actions were pretty clear, blocking your route into Scandinavia before attacking you. There was also the matter of revenge for our cousins in Neo Xenkinima.*

* - In that game Ulm Reborn crushed the dwarves completely in an even quicker and more brutal way than I did to you. I know it's nothing to do with you as a player, but I thought it made an interesting pretext for an attack. You put up a great fight and cost me a lot of time and resources by the way - I hope there's no bad feeling :]

[Xox]

Wow, you should be a politician Sombre, thats some mighty fine spin control there.

You attacked me after I gave into your demands for Scandinavia.

I totally gave into your claims on scandinavia, did not go in myslef, saw you take it and then use it to attack me anyways.

Not to say you broke a treaty or anything, You would not give me a treaty. This is all about your false statement

again, for the record....

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Sombre said:
You don't see Kharam Dzu doing that - we've offered fair diplomatic relations to everyone we've met, including you.
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I am just pointing out that this above statement of yours is just not true. "Pirate lies" as I said before

YOu have been caught, 'fess up


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Not taking it personal, all in good fun, it seems to have done you well. Frankly I was surprised everyine let you gain that much unoppossed. I even still think Kharam Dzu needs a boost. You did well because other nations were occuppied or asleep, great starting position, being able to see the weakness of another nation in the graphs, and good play on your part.

I am not sure what i could have done different in my situation. I cuold have groveled more I suppose, but I am pretty sure that would just worsen the "pirate pounce on the weak" syndrome that I was already seeing.

[Sombre]

Clearly the saying "Dead men tell no tales" doesn't work as well as we'd hoped, haharr. But dead ye are and bitter too, Ulmish spirits. Begone! We've no time for ye.

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People could have attacked me during my conquest of ulm, but they wouldn't have done so well for themselves as they have. Avernum was a threat, Sylvania was expanding into Spain - everyone had plenty to gain by placing their attention elsewhere. True, they gained less than me, but then they risked less too, attacking indies or gangpiling avernum.

You were just the victim of a powerful early game economy and our sailing ability.

The main thing you could have done, as far as I can see, would be to kick the hell out of my first couple of armies that crossed over. Faced with big casualties for no real gain I'd have given up and gone on to deal with more indies. But you didn't really have the early game strength to do that. In the first few battles I lost more than you, but you lost enough that I knew I'd win given a bit more time.

[lch]

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[Nikolai]

Just curious. What scales in dominion had Ulm? What God?

[DrPraetorious]

So I'm at war with Sylvania for the forseeable future; if anyone else wishes to attack Kharam Dzu (I recommend doing so soon and with great force), let me know so that I can assist in some kind of counterattack.

[Sombre]

Nikolai: He had a lich, drain 3,... the rest I don't remember.