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				 Re: OT: Cyber Nation 
 Actually, it occurred to me that the GOONS might just be punishing Eyoonia for leaving the Black Team.
 And just because I monitor the wars doesn't mean I do anything about them. Eyoonia's total defending casualties are more than ten times the size of Fiducia's army. We've occaisionally sent token peacekeeping troops and reconstruction money to allies who've gone into Anarchy, but otherwise we consider our defenses an insurance policy that we'd prefer not to file a claim against.
 
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				August 23rd, 2007, 06:47 PM
			
			
			
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		| President_Elect_Shang said: I could use that kind of attitude in my alliance when it forms.
 
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				August 23rd, 2007, 06:51 PM
			
			
			
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 Ouch.  What effects do nukes have on your nation again? 
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 Government put in anarchy, lose loads of troops and tanks. You lose 1/4 of your air force. You lose 150 miles of land and 150 infra points. The worst part of all is that it totally wrecks your economy for 6 days counting the day the bomb dropped. For example I went from a gross income of about 2.9M per day to making just a tad bit over 300k per day. Needless to say you never collect income during nuke anarchy. Man am I glad I had a cushion saved up for this war. 
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 Damn, that's gotta hurt. 
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 I think you guys will enjoy this quite a bit. 
I was attacked by a nation twice as powerful as me in terms of nation strength. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_d...ation_ID=80170 
Here are the numerous battle results I discovered today after logging in.
 
War has been declared on you by stevent37 for the reason of A general dispute! You may access your War & Battles screen to view and manage this war.
 
A fighter aircraft dog fight has just occurred against your nation by stevent37. In the attack you lost 5 fighter aircraft and destroyed 1 fighter aircraft launched by stevent37. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
A fighter aircraft dog fight has just occurred against your nation by stevent37. In the attack you lost 3 fighter aircraft and destroyed 1 fighter aircraft launched by stevent37. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by stevent37. You lost 10 defending tanks and 10.00 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by stevent37. You lost 10 defending tanks and 10.00 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
You have been attacked by stevent37.  You lost 1,550 soldiers and 199 tanks. You killed 4,814 soldiers and 1,148 tanks. Their forces razed 0.000 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.00 from you and you gained $30,265.88 in your enemy's abandoned equipment.  In the end the battle was a Victory. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
You have been attacked by stevent37.  You lost 3,379 soldiers and 127 tanks. You killed 8,156 soldiers and 736 tanks. Their forces razed 0.000 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.00 from you and you gained $20,580.80 in your enemy's abandoned equipment.  In the end the battle was a Victory. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by stevent37. You lost 10 defending tanks and 10.00 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by stevent37. You lost 10 defending tanks and 10.00 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
You have been attacked by stevent37.  You lost 1,414 soldiers and 413 tanks. You killed 4,390 soldiers and 1,213 tanks. Their forces razed 0.000 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.00 from you and you gained $2,378.17 in your enemy's abandoned equipment.   In the end the battle was a Victory. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
You have been attacked by stevent37.  You lost 10,728 soldiers and 1,568 tanks. You killed 8,013 soldiers and 500 tanks. Their forces razed 26.521 miles of your land, stole 5.000 technology, and destroyed 20.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $86,974.87 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat.  Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.
 
A peace offer has been submitted by stevent37 to end the bloodshed between your nations. As soon as both nations accept peace, the war will end.
 
Have you ever seen such a total and complete victory before in your life    That guy must be crying. In the end he got a bit of tech and some other little [censored] but man hes gotta be crying....
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 I added up the totals:Code: 
                 You Lost:             He Lost:Soldiers:       17,071                25,373
 Tanks:          2347                  3597
 Aircraft:       8                     2
 Money:          $86,974.87            $53,224.85
 Land:           26.591                N/A
 Tech:           5                     N/A
 Infra:          60                    N/A
 
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 Yes, he could have expected to have made out better in his attacks, but that's the flunky results the combat system frequently produces.  It could just as easy be the other way around next time.  Fact is, even with those poor results he made out okay.  His losses against you cost him around $750,000 tops.  At his level the tech he captured was worth at least $500,000 and the land he captured was worth at least $1 million.  He didn't peace out because of the results, he do so because this was a tech raid.  You do a blitz, capture what you can and then try and peace out.  He gains whatever he can capture and when you accepted his peace offer,he doesn't receive any return damage to his nation.  And if you attacked back, he may have had a couple of buddies join in.  That's the textbook raid, get in quick and get out quick.  It clears the slot so he can attack again.  There are raiders who have done this 10 or more times in a day.  Unless you have approached his alliance about this attack and demand reparations, what's to prevent him from doing this again tonight?  Or tomorrow.  And if they think they can get in a free set of attacks without any reprisals or the paying of reparations and simply peace out, what's to prevent them as an alliance from picking other members for the same treatment. 
			
			
			
			
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		| Beck said: Unless you have approached his alliance about this attack and demand reparations, what's to prevent him from doing this again tonight?  Or tomorrow.  And if they think they can get in a free set of attacks without any reprisals or the paying of reparations and simply peace out, what's to prevent them as an alliance from picking other members for the same treatment. 
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Beck, are you a member of WP? If not, then why do you care? 
I am really getting tired of other people lecturing on how this game "ought" to be played. Especially  when their advice boils down to "let's you and him fight".
 
I do not  want to be cultivated as cannon fodder for other players' political machinations. I do not  want to wade into the cesspool of lameness that is the C N Forums just to keep apprised of the game world diplomatic situation.
WHEN  the munchkins take notice of the WP and decide that we're easy pickings, we're going to be ground into the dust. My main interest in C N is seeing how much I can build up my nation before that happens. Drawing unnecessary attention with futile public posturing will just hasten armaggedon.
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 Sorry for caring.  I've been reading the posts of the people in this thread for years and you get to care what happens to them.  I won't let it happen again.  i wasn't trying to lecture you, I was trying to warn you.  I wasn't suggesting you attack the Wolfpack.  What I was suggesting is there is a certain protocol that is followed in situations like this.  Most alliances do not want their members raiding other nations in alliances.  I would have attempted to find out if the Wolfpack is one of them.  They would then rein in their member and insist on reparations.  Do want you want though.  I'll take my leave of this thread and no longer post here.
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