Any One Still Playing This Game?

Gandalf Parker · #1 September 7th, 2007, 11:21 AM

I think the general feel is still "Was the shift to higher level formats in SEV worth it?"

I know (as stupid as it seems to some of us) that sales are made and lost based on look and feel. There is a sizeable crowd which refuses to pay "new game prices" for games that look to them like its from a decade ago.

On the other hand, its not SEIV which impressed me. Try loading it and playing it vanilla from the CD. Feels like a demo with such a small galaxy and only 8 races. Its the SEIV as it become with player mods. Huge galaxies, many aditonal images, over 300 races, better AI, a great online signup site for multiplayer games, etc etc etc.

As far as I can see, the shift is still hanging up the modding. SEV is not becoming what SEIV is. I own both and Im still waiting for SEV to become what I consider playable. Now, whether or not the sales was able to prove the shift worth it I would love to know. Im often in discussions with other games developers. Also the shift from a great publicity/online-purchase/support publisher to a marketing/DD/buy-out publisher.

So far, if there is an SEVI Id like to see Aaron take the newly gained player base and pull it back to the old arrangment (altho I understand he has sold the ability to do that)

Gandalf Parker

Xrati · #2 September 7th, 2007, 03:25 PM

Gandalf, some of the best games I've ever played were low end graphics, BUT I played them into the wee hours of the night. Empire Deluxe was one of them along with games by Avalon Hill like Midway, Dreadnaughts and many others. They were good games and provoked an interest without glamour or glitz! SE4 was that type of game. The modding and patches made it that much better. I do not believe SE5 is in the same category as SE4. BUT it does have Glitz and Glamour!

Fyron · #3 September 7th, 2007, 04:06 PM

I think SE5 is in the same category... its got a graphics engine rivaling tech from 1998. The actual gameplay is more or less identical to SE4. Its just the clunky interface holding it back, for the most part. Games like GalCiv, Sword of the Stars, MOO3, have lots of glitz and glamor. SE5 is pretty basic in comparison (which is a good thing). There is a fair amount of mod work and discussion going on for the game, but much of it takes place on the official site these days, rather than here. :-\

Xrati · #4 September 7th, 2007, 05:48 PM

Fyron said:

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"There is a fair amount of mod work and discussion going on for the game, but much of it takes place on the official site these days, rather than here. :-\ "

Maybe that's it Fyron, I just miss the activity here!

Atrocities · #5 September 8th, 2007, 11:35 AM

The official site has a lot of traffic these days. I still like the format of this site over that of the official site and perhaps thats why I seldom if ever post on the official site. We all knew that this would happen as new people joined the ranks of SE fans that they would gravitate toward the official site thus taking along with them the more seasoned veterans of the game.

Some vets however just wanted to be top dawg at the new site so they pretty much said good bye to this site the moment that site opened.

Xrati · #6 September 8th, 2007, 05:38 PM

You're right AT, some gratitude shown toward the site that actually helped make SE5 what it is by making a thread to Aaron, about what people wanted to see in the next version. While the faithful remain here at one of the best sites I've ever had the privilege of being on. I never had any problems getting help here and after a while I found myself in a position to help other. I

this site!!!

thorfrog · #7 September 10th, 2007, 10:57 PM

I still play and mod my SEIV game. It's just a better game. I also play GalCiv2 alot. I just feel SEV is not a fun game.

Fyron · #8 September 11th, 2007, 12:26 AM

Atrocities said:
Some vets however just wanted to be top dawg at the new site so they pretty much said good bye to this site the moment that site opened.

Such unbounded pessimism...

Atrocities · #9 September 12th, 2007, 02:19 AM

No not really Fyron. I would say this was fact not my usual pessimism.

Combat Wombat · #10 September 14th, 2007, 02:36 AM

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Fyron said:
Atrocities said:
Some vets however just wanted to be top dawg at the new site so they pretty much said good bye to this site the moment that site opened.

Such unbounded pessimism...

I actually agree with AT on this one, we have seen multiple vets simply up and leave shrapnel to begin posting solely on se5.com for no reason that I can see other than to be the big man over there. I admit I would be over there too if the site layout didn't disgust me as much as se5's interface....