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				 Stealth Armor 
 I just updated a few of my exploration ships with stealth armor so that I may skirt through enemy territory without any harm. To the best of my knowledge the enemy does not have scanners that pick up level 1 Active and Passive EM countermeasures.  I unfortunatly just got hunted down and unmercifully slaughterd.  What's the deal, how did they see me?    |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 14th, 2002, 01:50 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Stealth Armor 
 Did you "turn on" the stealth armor?Also note that even if they don't have sensors and the cloaking is on, you will still be harmed by minefields.
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				March 14th, 2002, 08:08 PM
			
			
			
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 Um
 I thought stealth armor was auto active and didnt require to be turned on.
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				 Re: Stealth Armor 
 That would explain it, then.     
The reason you need to turn it on is so you can specify which stealth ships you want to start combats, and which you want to sneak by. Otherwise, your stealth armor ships would only fight when discovered by enemies.
 
Captain Bub: "Attack that enemy troop transport!"
 
Ensign Bubu: "Sorry sir, they can't see us because of our Neeto Technologies Mark XII stealth armor. So, er, well, we can't attack!"
 
Captain Bub: "Doh!"
 
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				March 14th, 2002, 08:15 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Stealth Armor 
 You have to give cloak orders, in order to get your ship running silent.  Otherwise, crew members might leave lights on, or be sending Messages, etc. 
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 Cloaking is never automatic. You have to press the Cloak Button (or keyboard shortcut).  Note that you do not fight if you move through enemy space cloaked and undetected.  You must uncloak to fight that turn. The stealth armor defense modifier applies if you are uncloaked. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Well, thats good to know.  I have never used cloaking or stealth armor.  I believe in just taking the fight to the person and the heck with hiding. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Even without using the cloaking device, it can be really cool to have a ship that is totally invisible  to the naked eye of most species, even from point blank range.  (+108% defense modifier    )
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 I agree.  I rarely ever use the cloaking feature of stealth armor.  However, the defensive bonuses available (30% with both Stealth Armor III and Scattering Armor III) make the extra research in Armor a great deal IMO..... |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Stealth Armor 
 Errr... wait a sec here.  If I have a fleet of say 10 cloakable ships, and I turn on the cloak on 2 of the ships, will these two cloaked shipsi) not enter the combat screen at all?
 ii) be present during combat, but not be able to fire on the enemy ships during combat?
 
 Personally I rarely turn on the cloak cause it's so supply hungry, so I've never really seen the intricacies in play.
 
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