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Old November 29th, 2007, 12:31 AM
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Iam offer use next icons (made - PlasmaKrab) in new patch for Russian units:

Mi-24:
http://www.box.net/shared/185ljkoqez

perfect icons GAZ-66 (2S12 Sani etc.):
http://www.box.net/shared/b834d50qk8

S-300/S-400 SAMs:
http://www.box.net/shared/al4exdtlqk

Uragan MRLS:
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S-75 (SA-2 NATO) SAM:
http://www.box.net/shared/gija2nb8eu
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We have found some errors and discrepancies in our OOB:

1. Unit 393 - S-300PT - change type unit = Area SAM.
2. Unit 409 - ZSU-23-4M5 - change smoke discharges=1.
3. Units 280 and 281 2S5 - Giatsint - change armour steel top=0
4. Unit 252 - MT-LB - change smoke discharges = 1
5. Unit 203 - DPM - change Fire Control=7
6. Unit 197 - BRM-2 - delete. There is no exact information on it.
7. Weapon 014 - 5.45 RPK SAW - change name = 5.45mm RPK-74
8. Weapon 124 - 40mm GP-25 GL - change range = 9

We have changed our OOB. To download it it is possible in the first message of this subject of a forum or from this address:

www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.obf
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foto unit 084 - Chiorny Oriol:

www.pecypc.kz/kramax/chiorny_Oriol.bmp
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Welcome All.

I wish to tell - the basic changes which we have made in our OOB.

1. Tanks: we systematised and have divided a control system of fire into generations. Also we have considered separate upgrades of tanks.
2. Very seriously we have changed almost all dates of our arms.
3. We have changed almost all the speed long our units.
4. We have reconsidered accuracy and range of all our arms according to game formulas.
5. We have renamed some our arms and units.
6. We diversified infantry parts of our army.
7. We have cleaned from OOB the nonexistent weapon and units.
8. We have more precisely made ours formations on found us data.
9. Planes and helicopters: we have changed structure of arms of planes and helicopters to realistic combinations. Also have changed speed and a control system of fire - on generations of helicopters and planes.
10. Artillery: we have changed range and accuracy of our artillery, and also quantity of an ammunition.

We wished to make our infantry states more exact, but we did not have no place for units
Also we had to clean some our units which are in our army.

We are ready to discuss and answer any your question on our OOB.

p.s. sorry for my bad English.
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This sounds very interesting I'm going to give this a try. I have always wanted a better infantry OBB.

What was the reasoning behind changing speed of units? I don't want it to become unbalanced.

Edit: Having looked at the changes I'm very impressed by the new infantry formations. and I also liked the splitting of tanks into Tank vs MBT formations.
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Thanks for your opinion on our OOB.

We corrected speed of units according to game rules:

MOVEMENT - SPEED OF UNITS

Fighter-bomber and level bomber Aircraft Speed: 1 pt of Speed for every 100 km/h (round up past 50)

Helicopter speed: 1/3 of actual maximum speed in km/h

Spotter Plane/UAV speed is equal to their normal air speed as calculated for fighter-bombers and bombers. The higher the number the wider the circle the Spotter Plane will fly.

Ground Speed equation is: max km/h speed divided by 3 = SPEED in hexes.

AA guns 25mm or less have 1 movement point. Larger weapons have 0.

AAMGs have a move of 2.

Certain types of terrain are are likely to cause breakdowns to vehicles entering them. This is based on distance/speed travelled (faster is worse), movement class (2WD is worse than track) and experience and vehicle weight.
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"Planes and helicopters: we have changed structure of arms of planes and helicopters to realistic combinations."

Speaking of which is there some online source listing typical payloads for soviet planes?
Sources typically list what they can carry in theory
but not what is usually done in practice.
Specifically what sort of weapons loads would be most common for the SU-17/20/22 and the MIG-23BN?
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