Good late game SCs?

[Baalz]

Equip a poison golem like this:
standard of the damned
fire helm
boots of quickness
armor of souls
amulet of MR
ring of tamed lighting/ring of frost (whatever makes sense for who you're fighting)

That makes a 29 protection & 85hp (constantly increasing from the drain life spam) and with that MR, lifeless, mindless he's pretty much immune to everything. Banefire shield handles most crowd control while the 2X AN life drain attacks will hit the larger foes. As mentioned, the lack of astral removes that achilies heel...the only way you're bringing this guy down is with strong anit-SC tactics.

[Kuritza]

Bad combat stats do matter not just against other SCs, but against anything that can fight back. Sacreds, for example. Damn, astral golems manage to die vs Abyssia infantry... and they have body ethereal, which poison golem lack.
Also, in my tests, thugs started meleeing with standard as soon as enemies were getting into melee.

[Xietor]

I like seraph/mandaha. against astral races that get higher level s mages, the seraph is risky.

Mandaha's weakness is no natural resistances, so it is hard to cover every base.

Late game sc's should be considered expendable because none can travel safely solo.

In alpaca Llamabeast, I had no astral or death, so I went with vampire lords. They can cast like for a life and are also decent thugs with a brand and shield.

Took down tyrant's water queens with vampires.

[jaif]

Via stupidity mostly. I had to empower in one air, air helmet him then cloud trapeze because I was unaware of his limitations. Worked in SP. Probably not the best choice, but it worked. Took several provinces all alone before getting red hearts.

I don't understand this at all. I summoned a treelord just now in an SP game just to see what they were like. They only have 2 misc slots, and their branches are 15 point attacks - hardly anything special. On top of that it's nature magic, which is hardly that offensive. So what do I do with a treelord besides give him a magic carpet and use him to summon defenses and creatures all over?

-Jeff

[K]

jaif said:

I don't understand this at all. I summoned a treelord just now in an SP game just to see what they were like. They only have 2 misc slots, and their branches are 15 point attacks - hardly anything special. On top of that it's nature magic, which is hardly that offensive. So what do I do with a treelord besides give him a magic carpet and use him to summon defenses and creatures all over?

-Jeff

Treelords, as far as I can tell, have one purpose.

You cast Transformation to turn them into non-unique moose, and then run around with Nature 4 moose-mages. Resummon, and repeat.

[vfb]

You can use them to cast Nature globals, then when someone comes looking to kill whoever cast the global, they can pretend they are just an ordinary tree.

[mathusalem]

vfb said:
You can use them to cast Nature globals, then when someone comes looking to kill whoever cast the global, they can pretend they are just an ordinary tree.

LOL

[Meglobob]

K said:

Treelords, as far as I can tell, have one purpose.

You cast Transformation to turn them into non-unique moose, and then run around with Nature 4 moose-mages. Resummon, and repeat.

Wow! I really after try this! I always wondered what they were for...

Tips hat to K's brilliance.

[jaif]

I need to try too. A magic carpet didn't work. :-(