New player struggling

Growltigga · #1 April 9th, 2002, 05:16 PM

Gryphin, very sneaky tactic there - I also like the one used in tactical battles where you use a satellite transporter to dump out satellites in front of the enemy and lure him through them - easy way to get a few good licks in

still, it is not very sporting really to use mines and fighters on the AI

Gryphin · #2 April 9th, 2002, 06:07 PM

Your eyes must be getting bleary:
"The other use for obsolete mines and sats "
I have used the Sat method when all of my "Attack" ships were crippled. I tracked down "cornered" and destroyed the Carrier with Sat based weapons.
"Alls fair in lave and war", well, in war anyway.

[ 09 April 2002: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

Andy Watkins · #3 April 10th, 2002, 10:21 AM

Dear all,

I won! beat the lot of them by getting 3X nearest score.

Couple more questions though. I used capital ship missiles and cannons I started the game with the entire game. Advanced to level 5 but that was it.

I developed dozens of other weapons that didn't seem very good so never used them??

Just realised the little green pill shaped anti mater torpedo is actually a direct fire weapon so would have been very good. What about the others??

I've ended up with all types of technology and advances, some I really like and would like to research early in my next game, is there any where you can see which research line you have to take to get a particular advance.

e.g. Advanced military science, what does it give you, how can you retrospectively tell other than write everything down as you go through the game

Andy

Growltigga · #4 April 10th, 2002, 10:34 AM

Andy

Well done, I have never won yet - the cats always beat me.

I see what you mean about technology but if you right click on any tech level, it should tell you what level and equipment you get at that level. IIRC if you right click on advanced military science, it should show that you get ship and fleet training facilities and ship capture tech.

I just go on that basis and if I dont like the tech when I research it, I trade it with the AI for something I do like

Andy Watkins · #5 April 10th, 2002, 11:46 AM

Growltigga,

I presume you have the settings for AI higher than I do? I also got a game where I started with 3 large worlds and they were all in one system, the top left hand corner system of the whole galaxy, which made it easy for me to expand and protect my borders.

Didn't know about the right clicking on tech thing, that's exactly what I was looking for. Can you right click anywhere else useful?

What's this trading tech with AI stuff?? I just set up alliances that includes trade. Can you trade specific things?

Ooh and I retrofitted one ship before I won, seemed really good, much better than scrapping and rebuilding.

I had got right up to Battleship hulls though, do you tend to use cruisers? I noticed the AI seems to use mostly light cruisers plus some cruisers.

Andy

<<Well done, I have never won yet - the cats always beat me.>>

Growltigga · #6 April 10th, 2002, 12:17 PM

I presume you have the settings for AI higher than I do? I also got a game where I started with 3 large worlds

I generally play a large galaxy with medium AI, high difficulty and high bonus. Never started with 3 worlds so dont know what this does.

I also have my own AI house rules, I dont use mines or fighters against them, I dont do massed warp point defences, I always capture planets rather than glass them and I dont use weapon platforms on my habitable worlds (I keep the war in space)

Can you right click anywhere else useful?

this I dont know, I only found out on the tech screen

. Can you trade specific things?

Yep, same place as the propose treaty section, scroll down you will see the propose trade option which tend takes you to the place where you can pretty much trade for everything - I know, I managed to trade my wife for a new set of drills

much better than scrapping and rebuilding.

it is, it definately is

do you tend to use cruisers?

I have a strange view to this and build a balanced fleet. I have the current ships in my current game

9 destroyer squadrons (5 dd's each)
12 cl divisions (2 cl each)
9 cr divisions (2 CR's each)
6 bc divisions (2 bc's each)

4 sector fleets (3 BB's, 3 bc's 6CR 6 CL 8 DD's apeice)

1 home fleet, as per a sector fleet but 6 BB's and 3 DN's

have about 20 assorted transports, satellite deplouerrs, planetary assault ships etc

also have about 12 FG's and spy ships which I use for convoy escorts, spying,

Andy Watkins · #7 April 10th, 2002, 12:38 PM

Growltigga,

How many worlds do you have to support all this? At my height I had 20 or so worlds, though some were a bit naff. My fleet was entirely battle cruisers and battleships and still only numbered about 20 or so ships. I also use 1-2 fleet repair ships with each fleet, these having a repair bay and loads of supply modules. Do you do this or do you build supply modules and repair bays into your larger warships?

What use are the DD's in the later game? They just aren't big enough for anything are they? By the time you've added engines, shields etc will be very little space for guns...

Andy

9 destroyer squadrons (5 dd's each)
12 cl divisions (2 cl each)
9 cr divisions (2 CR's each)
6 bc divisions (2 bc's each)

4 sector fleets (3 BB's, 3 bc's 6CR 6 CL 8 DD's apeice)

1 home fleet, as per a sector fleet but 6 BB's and 3 DN's

have about 20 assorted transports, satellite deplouerrs, planetary assault ships etc

also have about 12 FG's and spy ships which I use for convoy escorts, spying