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Old January 31st, 2008, 07:23 PM
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Unit 782, ambush sappers uses weapon 156 RPG-7VR.
I purposefully did not mention it because I thought it could fill the role of "limited availability, high end RPG" for the insurgents. A PG-7VR was probably used to disable at least one Abrams after 2003.

"Do I assume that since you didn't mention the RPG-16 and PRG-18 also in the OOB that these were available ??"

RPG-16/18 were available in some numbers (not huge but some) to the iraqi military and have been found in insurgents caches. There are pictures floating around of RPG-18 toting insurgents.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 08:09 PM
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As I see it the RPG-7V is a questionable weapon to arm anybody in the iraqi OOB.
The denomination itself is debatable, given that the closest match in the real world (600mm of RHA penetration, single warhead) would be the PG-7L as it was discussed here in the past.
And regardless of naming conventions I have found no mention of PG-7L use in Iraq. On the other hand it seems some PG-7VR may have been used.
So I am in full agreement that one or two odd insurgent units should be armed with something better than basic
RPG-7 (or occasional RPG-18/16), but no more than that and weapon 156 RPG-7VR is the best candidate for the role.
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OK, Sounds resonable

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Now some random stuff.
Formations 725 and 726, Recalled Republican guard.
I do vaguely remember the issue being raised at some point during either the Garner or Bremer administration with the intent to use them to restore order, but nothing was done of it, given the uproar it would have caused. They should be deleted.

Formation 749, Guer Tanks (Guerilla tanks).
There are no reports of the post 2003 insurgents having ever used armored vehicles (there are a few reports of some technicals but that's it). The Peshmerga had some tanks but that since much before 2003, presumably captured during the 1991 struggles.
This is an old example (I can dig more recent pictures if you are interested).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:K...Iraqi_Tank.JPG

So this formation should be either deleted or made available much earlier.
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OK, Noted. I'll look into this

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Now some armor and other miscellaneous stuff.

Unit 12, Type 69-II. It should be rearmed with weapon 71 or 72, the D-10T (all the pictures show it with the 100mm rifled gun not the 105mm). Its availability date should be anticipated to 1983 (according to SIPRI arms trade registers) and extended to at least 2015 or the end. An X2 radio code would be also a nice change.
If the tons of pictures I have seen are an indication this tank was the workhorse of the iraqi army and was extremely common. It is still in use in limited numbers (a few tens give or take). On the other hand it is questionable that many, if any, Type 69-I were aquired. Supposedly the 100mm smoothbore variant was not very succesful and was not made in large numbers and as far the iraqis were concerned it would have required a separate ammo supply.And while I have seen zillions of Type 69-II, I never spotted a Type 69-I.

Unit 618 at a minimum and maybe even 11 should be replaced with the corrected Type 69-II.

The M60s.
Iraq is supposed to receive a significan (600-700) shipment of M60 later this year. Supplier is likely to be Greece. Tanks will be of the M60A1 Rise and M60A3 TTS varieties. So far however Iraq has never operated the type, the few M60s captured in the 80's were just parked somewhere. Therefore I suggest the following:
1) Unit 9 to reclassed as medium tank.
2) Units 9-10-37 to have availability dates starting from the second half of 2008

Some sources for this
http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=2681008&C=landwar
http://www.longwarjournal.org/oob/index.php
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Some more stuff
Unit 34, M-84A. As pretty much every source about it states
Kuwait was the only foreign customer. A small number were captured by Iraq, but that was in 1991, not in 1988 as it is in the game now.

http://www.vojska.net/eng/armed-forc...ent/tank/m-84/
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/m84.htm

Units 95 96 and 205, 155mm A-M FG, 155mm A-M FG CM and 155mm A-M Mines. I have seen no source supporting the introduction of new tube artillery designs in the 90's. They did improvise some rocket designs in that period but no tube artillery.
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